Alex Smith is the 13th best qb in the nfl

A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

[ Edited by Hitman49 on Jan 21, 2010 at 11:40:38 ]

Originally posted by Jersey9er:

Originally posted by djfullshred:
It's a team game, so draw your own conclusions...

Team stats:

27th in total offense
22nd in passing
25th in rushinng
22nd in receiveing
27th in yards per game
18th in points per game

You know I wasn't gonna say anything but you say this, and forget these parts:

1. You say now it's a team game so how come you don't say that when people just bash one position and player? Mostly smith.

2. Gore and Vd went to the pro bowl with the sane rankings above, but it's ok for them to get praises?

Where's the rationale in that brotha?

1. Because saying it is a team game really goes without saying, we don't say that in every post in a focused discussion of one player. But we all know it.

2. Pro Bowl selections are players that people think are the the best in their respective positions. Smith is not one of the best players in his positon, and that is pretty obvious without trying to get cute or creative in the arguments.

Ultimately why I brought team statistics up as a discussion point is that the OP implies Smith is better than the team around him. Personally I think Smith (or any QB) being one of the most key players in an offense success or failure, it is not realistic to have a huge disparity in QB ranking over every other offensive statistic ranking..unless we can point to a lot of major personnel issues besides QB. But this is a team that has some talent, and a few weak spots still. But it is not like a few years back where there was really nothing to work with. This is not a bash Smith comment, but just a let's get real comment. The discussion goes round & round forever here, and I have never seen a compelling argument that makes me think Smith is apart from the struggles of the offense instead of part of the offesnive struggles.

[ Edited by djfullshred on Jan 21, 2010 at 11:45:29 ]

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

Thats what I've been saying! it highlights the need to draft a QB on the first day!

Let Smith start for a season or two, while a blue chip rookie is groomed, if Smith develops Great if the rookie develops as well even better, because there is no better trade bait than a promising QB unless it is an established QB!

We really can't lose in the long run if we take a top tier QB prospect on day one of the draft!

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Pennington is worse than Hill.

-9fA

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Penninton = S.Hill

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Pennington is worse than Hill.

-9fA

Funny you should sat that, because before long I bet Hills name will be on that list, at least it should be!

Regardless on this stat being accurate or not, I think it's safe to say that ALL of us WANT Alex to improve even more & build on his progress.

Originally posted by Nes49:
Regardless on this stat being accurate or not, I think it's safe to say that ALL of us WANT Alex to improve even more & build on his progress.

there hasnt been a less accurate statement ever posted here

Originally posted by hofer36:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Regardless on this stat being accurate or not, I think it's safe to say that ALL of us WANT Alex to improve even more & build on his progress.

there hasnt been a less accurate statement ever posted here

U saying I'm mistaken?

rodgers and rivers should be higher, smith should be lower...

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by hofer36:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Regardless on this stat being accurate or not, I think it's safe to say that ALL of us WANT Alex to improve even more & build on his progress.

there hasnt been a less accurate statement ever posted here

U saying I'm mistaken?

Well, you would think that your statement is correct, but some of these people just hate Smith and want to see him fail.

Originally posted by Hitman49:

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Penninton = S.Hill

Seneca Wallace over smith

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by Hitman49:
A list of free agents QBs this offseason:

Charlie Batch, Steelers
Kyle Boller, Rams
Mark Brunell, Saints
David Carr, Giants
Daunte Culpepper, Lions
A.J. Feeley Panthers
Jeff Garcia
Rex Grossman, Texans
Josh McCown, Panthers
Chad Pennington, Dolphins
Patrick Ramsey
Chris Redman, Falcons
Brian St. Pierre, Cardinals
Seneca Wallace Seahawks

Like it or not. Smith is our guy. Unless you think someone on this list can do better.

I would take Chad Pennington over Smith in a heartbeat!

Pennington has a lot of wear and seems to be prone to busting down. I don't think any team would start a season counting on him as their #1 right now.

Originally posted by meccaniner:
1.peyton manning
2.tom brady
3.drew brees
4.kurt warner
5.ben rothlisberger
6.bret favre
7.philip rivers
8. eli manning
9. donovan mcnabb
10.tony romo
11. aaron rodger....smith' haters messiah
12.matt schaub
13.alex smith...not bad for being coached by garbage nolan and a 2 year hiatus

matt ryan and joe flacco are not better than smith....not on planet earth or mars

This thread is a FAIL until there is a link provided.

meccaniner WTF is the LINK???