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I didn't read past "Alex played atrocious".
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Originally posted by Peanut49:
Originally posted by wordlesschor:
I wont go so far as to say i wish we had lost by a larger margin, but there is something to this. Alex and the team played horribly in the first half minus Gore's long run.

What you want out of a starting caliber qb is to have the moxie to put the game on his shoulders and try and make something out of it. It just seemed like Alex was one and done way too many times in the first half. I'm still pulling for him, but geez...

How do you play horribly throwing 7 passes in 30 minutes and play calling designed for screens that do not pan. I honestly believe Alex had a good game. Our offensive strategy most of the time does not call plays that favor our QB's strengths.

Exactly, 7 freakin attempts how are you supposed to win a game like that
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
I didn't read past "Alex played atrocious".

I endured the first paragraph for the benefit of a doubt, but nope... it's the same s**t
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think ur just a hating troll. green bay played soft? ya thats it, they wanted us to come within a drive of beating them. thats it, to hell with stepping on another teams throat and keeping them down and securing a game. lets let the good ol niners come back and almost win. no sir, we played better for the same reasons that we've almost come back all season long, singletary gets away from his prehistoric offense after we fall 20 or so points behind and he actually lets the team spread out a little and plays to their strengths. we have these issues because singletary told the world we would be a "physical with an F" type team and he's gonna keep pushing that until he gets some success so he can feel special, rather than playing to the teams strengths. most of our offensive playmakers came from a spread system, theyre used to it. many players alluded at the end of the game that we need to go to more of a spread system. even our s**tty O-line held up well enough for smith to bring us back into the game. Indy, the Pats, the Saints, the chargers, the steelers, most of the best teams in the league run a 3 or 4 receiver set as their primary offense. dont be ignorant and just blame smith, its been done, its not true. the gy has proved that he can move the ball, and move the ball well when the coaches call his kind of plays. coaches should play to their players strengths, not the other way around

Hey man sorry i dont follow the team as blindly. I have my opinions about the game and if that makes me a troll then so be it. If you're satisfied with one good half of football then more power to you. Like i said, i'm pulling for Smith to improve, he's all we have right now. But still, anybody who was pleased with the first half and/or pleased with the outcome of this game is the real troll. I'm happy Smith, Crabs and Davis got theirs today but i'd be much happier with a W. Smith's gotten the chance to ride the pine for 2 years and observe, he's getting better, but i still think he needs to show more that's all i'm saying. Sweet baby jesus, some people act like they married the damn guy.
[ Edited by wordlesschor on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:56 PM ]
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Originally posted by wordlesschor:
Hey man sorry i dont follow the team as blindly. I have my opinions about the game and if that makes me a troll then so be it. If you're satisfied with one good half of football then more power to you. Like i said, i'm pulling for Smith to improve, he's all we have right now. But still, anybody who was pleased with the first half and/or pleased with the outcome of this game is the real troll. I'm happy Smith, Crabs and Davis got theirs today but i'd be much happier with a W. Smith's gotten the chance to ride the pine for 2 years and observe, he's getting better, but i still think he needs to show more that's all i'm saying. Sweet baby jesus, some people act like they married the damn guy.

Few would be happy with the first half , but to pin it on Smith is a joke , he had 7 attempts in the first half WTF
Originally posted by ZRF80:
This is exactly what I was afraid of. We got our asses handed to us in the first half. That was the "real" 49ers squad. Inept on the offensive front with a defense trying its best to hang in the game. Alex Smith played atrocious. It was a tell tale of how this season has gone for us, and in the case of Alex Smith.......confirmed our suspicions that he's the same ole bust that he's always been.

But then GB got soft. They let off the aggression. The Niners became desperate (as we do in games where we're blown out by halftime) and started airing it out. All of a sudden, Alex looks like a hero. Attention is diverted away to OFF-FIELD issues (eg playcalling, coaching) instead of the garbage that is being displayed on the field.

Now..............even though we lost this game in the first half.........everyone is touting a MORAL VICTORY. No longer is Alex the bust that he's been since he became starter this season, but rather the unsung hero who brought his team back from extinction. Yeah, Ive seen this movie before.......try San Diego and Philadelphia 2006........where we were blown out by halftime + a piss poor performance by Smith, only to have him pad his stats against loose defenses in the 2nd half. End result = blind supporters flashing the "I love Alex Smith" badge and asking for his jersey to be retired next to Montana's.

And now we come full circle. Again, Alex comes up short in the first half. Niners get put out of the game. GB backs off in the 2nd....Alex gets a chance to open it up a bit (we'll forget the INT that led to GB's TD of course), and now we're shouting for a contract extension. Go Alex ! We know you're capable of "almost" winning it, and we'll ignore that you're one of the main reasons behind the loss to begin with.

Im sick of this s**t. There is no such thing as "moral" victories when you've been rebuilding for 7 years. There's no such thing as "moral" victories when your 1st round daft pick QB gets outshined by one who has a worse oline and supporting cast. And there's no "moral" victory with fans that find every damn excuse in the book to forgive their lame QB, who is ridiculed (watch highlights on NFL Network) by every major media outlet, but think they have a diamond in the rough that needs only a probowl RB, 2 probowl WRs, and 3/5 probowl OLinemen to showcase his REAL skills.

I really do wish that we would have lost, so we could finally start accepting the truth, instead of pretending that Alex will be a star if we use the spread offense. Yeah, like teams wont prepare for that. And then what, when we cant even get a completion with the spread ? Are we finally going to accept Alex as the bust that he is ? Oh no. We'll probably blame Raye or the oline as we always do.

PS - That INT wasnt Alex's fault. It was tipped by the leaf that was blowing in the wind.

Yawn.
Originally posted by wordlesschor:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think ur just a hating troll. green bay played soft? ya thats it, they wanted us to come within a drive of beating them. thats it, to hell with stepping on another teams throat and keeping them down and securing a game. lets let the good ol niners come back and almost win. no sir, we played better for the same reasons that we've almost come back all season long, singletary gets away from his prehistoric offense after we fall 20 or so points behind and he actually lets the team spread out a little and plays to their strengths. we have these issues because singletary told the world we would be a "physical with an F" type team and he's gonna keep pushing that until he gets some success so he can feel special, rather than playing to the teams strengths. most of our offensive playmakers came from a spread system, theyre used to it. many players alluded at the end of the game that we need to go to more of a spread system. even our s**tty O-line held up well enough for smith to bring us back into the game. Indy, the Pats, the Saints, the chargers, the steelers, most of the best teams in the league run a 3 or 4 receiver set as their primary offense. dont be ignorant and just blame smith, its been done, its not true. the gy has proved that he can move the ball, and move the ball well when the coaches call his kind of plays. coaches should play to their players strengths, not the other way around

Hey man sorry i dont follow the team as blindly. I have my opinions about the game and if that makes me a troll then so be it. If you're satisfied with one good half of football then more power to you. Like i said, i'm pulling for Smith to improve, he's all we have right now. But still, anybody who was pleased with the first half and/or pleased with the outcome of this game is the real troll. I'm happy Smith, Crabs and Davis got theirs today but i'd be much happier with a W. Smith's gotten the chance to ride the pine for 2 years and observe, he's getting better, but i still think he needs to show more that's all i'm saying. Sweet baby jesus, some people act like they married the damn guy.

first of all i wasnt even talking to u. i didnt feel the need to quote the original post, just respond to it. if u feel i was talking to u then take it as u will. i just think people who blame smith for all the teams woes are ridiculous. if the 49ers would run the same offense that they do in the 2nd half all game long, we win this game, and all 5 of the other games we lost by less than a TD. and smith only attempted 7 passes, im sure he told the coaches to only let him pass 7 times. and of those 7 he was hit or sacked on most of those. go watch it again. if you people cant see the difference in the offensive gameplan from 1st half to 2nd half you need to start watching a less complex game
Originally posted by ZRF80:
"And the wheels on The dumbf**k bus go round and round, round and round, round and round......."

[ Edited by PA9erFaithful on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM ]
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Originally posted by 9ermj:
Originally posted by wordlesschor:
Hey man sorry i dont follow the team as blindly. I have my opinions about the game and if that makes me a troll then so be it. If you're satisfied with one good half of football then more power to you. Like i said, i'm pulling for Smith to improve, he's all we have right now. But still, anybody who was pleased with the first half and/or pleased with the outcome of this game is the real troll. I'm happy Smith, Crabs and Davis got theirs today but i'd be much happier with a W. Smith's gotten the chance to ride the pine for 2 years and observe, he's getting better, but i still think he needs to show more that's all i'm saying. Sweet baby jesus, some people act like they married the damn guy.

Few would be happy with the first half , but to pin it on Smith is a joke , he had 7 attempts in the first half WTF


Yeah i hear you, lol. But he's the field general of the team. If you have one guy to put a loss on most often the blame, fairly or unfairly, falls on the shoulders of the guy who touches the ball most often. The team as a whole sucked it up in the first half, and you can probably put the central fault on the o-line in the first half even though they've been playing better recently. I'd just like to see Smith make something happen a little more out of nothing. Garcia did it every once in awhile and it'd be nice to see some more of that out of a 49er qb nowadays. I've been a big supporter of Smith, i thought it was on when he almost brought us back from defeat in Houston now, i, like most guys, just would like to see if he can progress. Some people on here have super blinders and get their panties in a bunch when you critique a guy. I'm rooting for the guy, but as a fan people should also be able to voice their own criticism.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think ur just a hating troll. green bay played soft? ya thats it, they wanted us to come within a drive of beating them. thats it, to hell with stepping on another teams throat and keeping them down and securing a game. lets let the good ol niners come back and almost win. no sir, we played better for the same reasons that we've almost come back all season long, singletary gets away from his prehistoric offense after we fall 20 or so points behind and he actually lets the team spread out a little and plays to their strengths. we have these issues because singletary told the world we would be a "physical with an F" type team and he's gonna keep pushing that until he gets some success so he can feel special, rather than playing to the teams strengths. most of our offensive playmakers came from a spread system, theyre used to it. many players alluded at the end of the game that we need to go to more of a spread system. even our s**tty O-line held up well enough for smith to bring us back into the game. Indy, the Pats, the Saints, the chargers, the steelers, most of the best teams in the league run a 3 or 4 receiver set as their primary offense. dont be ignorant and just blame smith, its been done, its not true. the gy has proved that he can move the ball, and move the ball well when the coaches call his kind of plays. coaches should play to their players strengths, not the other way around

This.
Peyton Manning threw 2 INTs today
That guy is a bum too!
He f**ken sucks ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Z, this is the most ridiculous post you have ever posted, you just need to quit while you have a little credibility left man. The whole thing just reeked of ignorance and unmitigated bias. You have lowered the IQ of the zone a full 20 points with that outburst of opinionated nonsense. You are quickly becoming the new Sabrason...way to set the bar high!
I completely AGREE with the OP. Alex Smith is excellent at ALMOST winning games. I can't wait for the day I check the webzone and the head story is.. "Alex Smith cut.. or Alex Smith traded for a 6th round pick"
If anyone seriously thinks that Alex Smith lost us the game, they need to quit watching football forever cause obviously they don't know s**t about football. Smith literally had someone in his face every time he snapped the ball in the first half and I don't care who you are, with that kind of pressure, it is impossible to move the chains.
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