Originally posted by ZRF80:
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
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Originally posted by elguapo:
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For the people that gave him a B, what kind of assessment chart do you use ? Im asuming you have Brady, Manning, and Favre slotted in as an A. Are you telling me that Alex is playing one tier below them at this time ?
I gave him a B by using LOGIC....what kind of chart are you using to not give him a B?
here's a lesson for you.
GIVEN: Smith has the worst OL in football, 2 backup tackles STarting, 2 Horrible Guards, NO time to throw......and still has 6 td's and ONLY 6 int's is great. PUT BRADY, MANNING, and you other great qb's behind OUR OL, they would not do much better.
this concludes the lesson
What a joke. Your "lesson" is flawed because Rodgers is playing with a WORSE offensive line and is putting up better numbers. So if Rodgers can put up great numbers with a worse oline than ours, then what would Brady and Manning do behind our piece of s**t line ?
Lesson over...........
You compare a guy that was brought into the NFL in an ideal situation with someone that was thrown into the grinder, with a different OC every single year, on a worse team. Your logic fails you once again. Hill is done bro, get over it. The only way he ever starts again for the niners is injuries. But you know more than the coaches making the decisions...right?
As I stated above, why do you use Hill as a standard to compare Smith. Everyone's acknowledged that Hill isnt the future; I dont think anyone thought that for one second. He was only a bridge until we could find the next legit guy. You guys think that Smith is the future. So use someone that has credentials when measuring him up. Why Hill ?
because it is clear you are upset that Hill isn't the starting QB anymore.
As Ive said multiple times, I dont wat Hill as starter. As in 2007, when Hill came in and played well..........everyone started making excuses that Hostler changed the playbook and opened up the offense, which he didnt do for Smith/Dilfer. I dont want to hear this crap again. Alex is flushing himself down the toilet right before our eyes. In 3 games so far, he threw 3 INTs in potential game winning drives to help us lose, and the last game.........our coaching staff didnt dare let him throw the ball when he needed to. I think that says enough about what the confidence level in him is.......
OK, so you don't like Hill. You don't like Smith. What other options do we have? Don't tell me you want to start Davis.
I dont want to start anyone but Smith. I havent said that we should bench him. Im just giving my analysis on how he's played. Some posters gave him a B, and I just wanted to know what exactly has he done to warrant that grade, especially if Favre/Manning/Brady/Brees get an A. The response I got was that it wasnt his fault, and I got multiple excuses. So I cited examples where he got good play calling (coach), decent time from the oline, and open receivers yet he still made mistakes. Apparently, people feel offended by the truth....
The thing is, you have to look at the situation. Favre, Manning, Brady, and Brees all are in IDEAL situations to succeed. Then you have guys in an ideal situation, but don't get A's, guys like Romo, for example.
Let's say Manning throws for 4,500 yards. He gets an A.
Let's say we draft Bradford and he throws for 2,900 yards in his rookie season. Does that mean since he's 1,600 yards away from catching Manning, he should get a C or a D? You have to look at the situation. If a rookie QB throws for 2,900 yards, I'd consider that a pretty good season, maybe worthy of an A or a B.
The same thing holds true for Smith. He hasn't played in years, has a new OC, no protection, not much WR help, etc. So if you factor all that in, I'd say he's doing a decent job. Trust me, you put Brees on this team, you aren't going to see that much difference.
If I would rate Alex, I'd give him a B-/C+. The most important thing is that he has the potential to improve his grade. It's pretty impressive that he's been able to come right in and take charge of the offense like he has (comparing him to Hill). I mean, Alex's first GAME...check that...Alex's first HALF of football this year was better than any of Hill's full games, halves, quarters, etc.
With Hill, there's no improvement. He was regressing. Most importantly, the guy is going to be 30 years old next season. Again, I hate to keep comparing him to Hill, but the fact of the matter is that he's the guy who he replaced, and so it's important how he compares with him. If he's better than the guy he's replacing, what else can you ask for? We have nobody on our roster right now that's better than Smith, so all the hating and whining really is pointless until next season.