Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
Hell yeah start Smith after the bye. Hill hasn't played well win or lose, and we haven't won games because of him. He has a winning record technically, but that's because we've beat teams we should beat but he can't get this team to win vs a team that's as good or better than us. He's not a play making QB. I'm sorry but one TD pass to a WR 5 games into the season isn't very good, and he has thrown INTs too. He's a 2nd string game manager, teams are figuring him out and he can't make them pay by puting the ball where only the WR can get it or throwing the long ball when he was a 1 on 1 match up down field and the WR is behind the corner. Just look at when Morgan told Sing "that pass came down like a punt". I'm sorry but I don't buy that these recievers are that bad. Morgan was good last year, and when he's gotten open he hasn't gotten the ball. When he gets the ball he usually makes plays, just look at the 61 yard reception he had today. We need a QB to get the ball to the recievers down field, open s**t up, and that's how you open stuff up for your running game. We don't use as much play action because Shaun can't put the ball down the field. He makes his living dumping the ball off to the RB or TE but now that teams figure him out they just leave the recievers open, and blitz, and they make sure they take his dump off away and he can't do anything. Sorry but our recievers have been getting better but he can't make all the throws he needs to.
To everyone saying stuff like "NO, I would rather put in Nate Davis than crappy Smith" guess what, Nate ISN'T READY. He's a dyslexic rookie who is still learning the playbook and doesn't have chemistry with the first team. Atleast Smith got some snaps with them in PS. You think Smith sucks, well Hill hasn't done anything Smith couldn't have done, and I don't want to ruin Davis, so what's the risk in puting Smith in? Wake up and realize we aren't going to win if Hill keeps playing this badly. It's not that he's just playing badly, it's that he's a pretty limited QB who can't get the ball to the recievers because his arm doesn't let him and it's killing our ability to get drives going and it's killing the TOP and the defense is getting exhausted. Is everything Hill's fault? No. But we can't beat teams that are as talented as we are or better because he holds us back.
I do agree with your analysis.
Oh, and sorry about your jersey Bro.
Thanks man. It's no big deal, I actually have bigger problems to worry about than my jersey but that type of thing happens to me all the time so oh well.
I honestly think Raye gets too much credit for the offenses failings, because everyone wants to convince themselves that Hill is an amazing QB and the 2nd coming of Garcia because he had a few games. But his last few passes of the game, heck this whole game, showed Hill's problems. He can deliver the ball quick when a guy gets open. He can't put the ball where only the reciever can get it. His ability to get the ball out fast and make quick decisions has been overrated by everyone on here, I like him as a person and as a back up QB but I said that in preseason where he was taking sacks and he was holding the ball just as long as Smith. There were plays out there where Shaun had no idea what in the world was going on, like those 2 passes to VD where Vernon was supposed to go somewhere else(I don't know if he had an option depending on the coverage or what) and Hill throws it way behind him, almost got picked on one of those. He's not really a genius game manager, at the same time he doesn't have the arm to make the throws and on throws he could make he doesn't trust himself either. The ball arrives late a lot and gives the DB time to recover most of the time. WRs have to slow up on his deep throws and he doesn't have accuracy down field. Just look at the INT Bruce saved in the Seattle game, or the would be TD pass Morgan dropped because it came down like a punt and he couldn't catch it in stride. I want to see how the WRs can play with a QB who can get them the ball, I have a hunch that it would pick up the whole offense and we wouldn't be getting so many three and outs. I don't see us beating anyone anymore with Hill at QB, if he stays and he gets wins I'll eat crow and give him props but if he keeps this up I want to see Smith out there so we don't ruin Davis.
You're right on with Hill. Its also compounding the problem with our crappy protection of Hill. I cant put Nate in the same scenario as Smith though; if he were to be put in the game, because people handle adversity differently. Davis
could be the lock that we need in a QB. He will make misstakes, but my argument is that he will also make throws, runs, dropbacks, rollouts, decisions, fades, bombs, and out routes that our other QBs cant make.
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