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Aug 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
- ZRF80
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Our group of young receivers is "acceptable". The point is that we've supposedly inherited the heir apparent. If Crabtree decides to join the ranks, and blossoms to what we expect him to be, then we will have a formidable receving corp. Remember, you dont always need a 2 probowl combo at receiver. Guys like John Taylor and TJ Housyomomma look good/great because they were complimented by a GREAT receiver. If Crabtree develops into a good/great receiver, then guys like Morgan/Battle will become all that important on this roster.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
- Nabisko
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Originally posted by jreff22:
We have the better RB.....case closed.
Even though it has nothing to do with the thread, 100% agree.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:06 PM
- SanFranAddic
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Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
[ Edited by SanFranAddic on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:08 PM ]
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:09 PM
- Rikimaru03
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Originally posted by susweel:
We got 5 superbowls.....................so now what ???
what does that have to do with anything? we are talking about the current WR's.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:12 PM
- SanFranAddic
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Originally posted by chimp914:Originally posted by momoney925:
We have a better RB
Better LB
Better Tight End
Better Coach
Seattle has pretty good LBs and they're more proven.
Vernon still hasn't proven anything.
Same for Singletary.
More proven that Willis and Spikes?? Are you smoking some Washington state home grown?
Please change that "i" in your name to a "u".
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM
- DaFaro49ers
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Originally posted by SanFranAddic:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
You may have a point with the statements of burleson, even though he is a factor in their return game/special teams, but your statement of T.J. is ridiculous. Morgan can be a beast and one heck of a player, but do not say that Morgan is better than T.J. thats a bias statement from a bias fan... i love my 49ers dearly, but i think seriously before i make any judgements of horrible magnitude as you just did.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM
- DaFaro49ers
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think our group is really good. its the least of our worries as a team. just because we dont have two probowlers like arizona and a superbowl mvp like seattle doesnt mean our group isnt good. i like our group of receivers a lot, theyre young, boldin and fitz werent good over night. it takes a little development. Morgan will be a special player, bruce is very good but he is only a stop gap, despite what the zone says i think Hill is a very good receiver, Brandon Jones will be back by game 3 or 4 i think and he is very good, Crabtree for this year wont do anything much i dont think but next year when bruce retires he should be ready to step up, battle is a solid receiver, even the two youngsters in Ziggy and Spurlock look promising. not saying we are as good as AZ's wideouts but we have some young talent that could develop to be pretty damn good. i would much rather use early draft picks and FA pickups on D and O linemen, passrushing OLB's or maybe a QB if we need one.
Very Well put! To me were basing all these belief's and outlooks on the recievers just based of practice --> Spurlock, Jones, Ziggy! When jones was in Tennessee he really didn't do much(but they were in a run first offense). I trully hope for continued success out of Josh Morgan, i have such high belief in his potential and recieving skills
the only people im basing off of practices are ziggy, spurlock and jones. i know jones played for the titans but i didnt follow him much. ive seen Hill, Morgan, Bruce, Battle play in the pros and Crabtree destroy opposing D's in college. of our guys that have been here, Hill could be a solid number 2 guy, Morgan could develop into a number 1 because he showed a lot of signs last year when he came back from his staff infection, Bruce is very dependable, just like Arnaz Battle. battle has been our best target for a very long time, he is sure handed and very tough, a game breaker? no, but a very good possession receiver. he's probably got the highest percentage on the team for converting 3rd downs, not sure if thats a fact but i would bet on it. in his new role, assuming he makes the team, he will be the number 3. he will thrive in that position because he wont be facing other teams best CB anymore, he'll be facing the nickelback because other teams have to account for Morgan and Bruce. i completely forgot about Vernon Davis. he also looks ready to go, in an offense thats gonna feature him more. as we've accumulated more and more threats on offense our existing receivers will continue to look better. i dont know if you remember the years with brandon lloyd and battle when they were the only guys, we had almost no shot at doing anything in the air because we had no other threats. have faith in our youngsters, they will develop nicely in this situation.
I have faith in our young WR's, i trully do. Im making the statement of how much better is our WR corp than last year and do we trully need another W.R. for any of the positions X,Y, or Z. I love Morgan and I loved Crabtree at TTech, but we are holding our breathes on potential. Jones never did anything eye-popping in college or the pro's. Battle is consistent, but is too slow to be our slot wr. Ziggy needs to bulk up before he see's the field anytime soon. Spurlock trully will be on the roster for special teams duty only, he wont see the field as wr...very unproven, but with time he may measure to be a good slot reciever. My point with this thread is, are we really that much better with our WR CORP than last year, if our three starting recievers are going to be the same. Bruce, Morgan, Battle???
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM
- ForeverYoung8
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Originally posted by momoney925:
We have a better RB
Better LB
Better Tight End
Better Coach
Period!
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:24 PM
- DaFaro49ers
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Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:Originally posted by momoney925:
We have a better RB
Better LB
Better Tight End
Better Coach
Period!
We have the best LB in the division, but they have the better LB CORP.
We have a fast TE, but every other teams TE produced the same or more than VD.
We have a motivational first true year HC... so does seattle?so does STL? and um last i checked Ken Whisenhunt took the cards to the superbowl??
think before you speak people.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
- Ether
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Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:Originally posted by SanFranAddic:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
You may have a point with the statements of burleson, even though he is a factor in their return game/special teams, but your statement of T.J. is ridiculous. Morgan can be a beast and one heck of a player, but do not say that Morgan is better than T.J. thats a bias statement from a bias fan... i love my 49ers dearly, but i think seriously before i make any judgements of horrible magnitude as you just did.
Morgan will be better than Housh. Housh was only good because of Chad Johnson.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:36 PM
- DaFaro49ers
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Originally posted by Ether:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:Originally posted by SanFranAddic:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
You may have a point with the statements of burleson, even though he is a factor in their return game/special teams, but your statement of T.J. is ridiculous. Morgan can be a beast and one heck of a player, but do not say that Morgan is better than T.J. thats a bias statement from a bias fan... i love my 49ers dearly, but i think seriously before i make any judgements of horrible magnitude as you just did.
Morgan will be better than Housh. Housh was only good because of Chad Johnson.
The Key thing is bolded above. "WILL BE"
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:36 PM
- DaFaro49ers
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Originally posted by Ether:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:Originally posted by SanFranAddic:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
You may have a point with the statements of burleson, even though he is a factor in their return game/special teams, but your statement of T.J. is ridiculous. Morgan can be a beast and one heck of a player, but do not say that Morgan is better than T.J. thats a bias statement from a bias fan... i love my 49ers dearly, but i think seriously before i make any judgements of horrible magnitude as you just did.
Morgan will be better than Housh. Housh was only good because of Chad Johnson.
The Key thing is bolded above. "WILL BE" i know Morgan will be as well. I'm talking about this year, not the future. Morgan will be better 2 years down the line, but T.J. is far more polished than morgan right now...FARRRR MORE polished. He put up reasonable stats with ryan fitzpatrick as QB...ALEX SMITH is better than fitzpatrick,,TRENT DILFER is better than fitzpatrick. So if your able to do your job with a poor QB than thats talent.
T.J has put up better stats than Chad Johnson the last two years??? What are you talking about.
[ Edited by DaFaro49ers on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM ]
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:38 PM
- LumpiaJeff
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If I had to rank the receivers in our division, I think I would rank ours over the Seahawks mainly because Branch and Burleson have basically been injured for two seasons. Plus, I never really thought of Burleson as a threat.
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:54 PM
- SJniner7
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Originally posted by SanFranAddic:Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Burleson drops more passes than any other "name" receiver out there. He's even worse than Vernon, and that's saying A LOT. I'll stick with Bruce over Branch. And at this point in their careers, it's arguable if Housh is even an upgrade over Morgan.
I'll take our corps over theirs, thank you.
Almost identical to what I was thinking. Burle.. who? Branch is probably no better nor worse than Bruce. TJ and Morgan's comparison will shine better this year, with a full year...
Aug 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM
- BMore9ersfan
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Originally posted by DaFaro49ers:
Im happy, but not fully satisfied with our overall WR Corps.(including Crabtree). We are third place in our own division in the WR category.
Cards: Fitz, Boldin, Breastion
Seahawks: T.j. Houzzyomomma , Branch, Burleson
49ers: Morgan, Bruce, Crabtree
Rams: Avery, Burton
So my question to you guys is...are you guys exactly satisfied with the WR group we have...or would you like us to make a key aquistion next year, which may harm us from getting a player we may need for another position.
p.s. the group of WR's we have right now is the best group we've had in years, but are we satisfied for that exact reason, or are we satisfied because its a talent-laden group?
Can't really argue about Zona's WRs, they my have the best group in the league. I'm not so sure about Seattle's corps though. I think that these guys may have reached the point where they're living more off of their names then anything else.
Branch has never gone for over 1000 yards in a season, nor has he ever pulled in more than 5 tds.
Burleson has never lived up to his so called potential. He has 1 season over 1000 yards and a couple 9 td seasons, but nothing spectacular.
Hous, has been very productive with out a doubt, but I've never seen him as a true #1. I'm not saying the guy isn't good, but he's not a game changer or player maker. He's a guy that moves the chains. He caught 90 balls last year and only manged 4 TDs. In 2007 he had 112 receptions with only 1100 yards. In contrast, last year Andre Johnson caught 115 passes for 1500 yards. AJ = Play Maker, TJ = Possession receiver.
Come to think of it, that's what all of Seattle's WRs are, possession receivers. They've got our guys in the experience department, but athletically I think we've got them beat.