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Aug 30, 2011 at 12:51 PM

dmax
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Good news: Goodwin is now officially the top C on the depth chart:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers.html?full_args=08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers&blockID=556500&feedID=5936

GOOD NEWS..THANK YOU BASED GOD

Aug 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

#797

Jakemall
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Snyder is worse than Rachal. Those with short memories . . .

What are you talking about? Snyder was not great at RT....but he was the best RG we had last season.

Aug 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM

#798

Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Snyder is worse than Rachal. Those with short memories . . .

What are you talking about? Snyder was not great at RT....but he was the best RG we had last season.

Not great? He was absolutely the worst lineman in all of football at RT and RG for three years. And worse by nearly another 50% based on QB pressures and sacks. That's what I'm talking about.

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:02 PM

#799

Jakemall
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Not great? He was absolutely the worst lineman in all of football at RT and RG for three years. And worse by nearly another 50% based on QB pressures and sacks. That's what I'm talking about.

Again, he was our best RG last season. RT is where he was lacking...and even there he was better than Kwame. I'm sure you can find the run averages and QB averages when the line had Snyder in last season vs Rachal.

Baas was the one that sucked at guard. Amazingly he did well at center.

[ Edited by Jakemall on Aug 30, 2011 at 1:03 PM ]

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM

#800

Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Not great? He was absolutely the worst lineman in all of football at RT and RG for three years. And worse by nearly another 50% based on QB pressures and sacks. That's what I'm talking about.

Again, he was our best RG last season. RT is where he was lacking...and even there he was better than Kwame. I'm sure you can find the run averages and QB averages when the line had Snyder in last season vs Rachal.

Baas was the one that sucked at guard. Amazingly he did well at center.

This is your assertion. Back it up.

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM

#801

49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
This is your assertion. Back it up.

he RG for saints game thats when our o line played best

he is our best RG just watch the film last year

i do agree however he was a horrible RT but RG he i very good

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:41 PM

#802

Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
This is your assertion. Back it up.

I wouldn't know how to go about backing that up with evidence, but they are correct. When Snyder came in to play RG, he played that spot better than any other last season.

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:43 PM

#803

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Snyder or Kilgore at RG. No Rachal, please.

Funny, I forget who, but some beat writer mentioned that Rachal was the best at pass protecting on Saturday. Man, it's that bad.

And Hey, who changed my title of MY thread, damn it? I know it was you Kid...I know you're lurking behind the keystrokes, man.

[ Edited by ninertico on Aug 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM ]

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:45 PM

#804

Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Funny, I forget who, but some beat writer mentioned that Rachal was the best at pass protecting on Saturday. Man, it's that bad.

Believe it or not, so far in THIS pre-season and THIS pre-season only? Rachal has been our best OL.

( not joking )

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:48 PM

#805

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Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Good news: Goodwin is now officially the top C on the depth chart:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers.html?full_args=08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers&blockID=556500&feedID=5936

GOOD NEWS..THANK YOU BASED GOD

It was so effing obvious this had to happen, Snyder was getting thrown back on every single snap last Saturday.

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM

#806

ninertico
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
Believe it or not, so far in THIS pre-season and THIS pre-season only? Rachal has been our best OL.

( not joking )

Wow! I have read those posts and articles. Amazing, huh?

Still, I don't know why or even how this OL is failing to progress. Instead, both Staley and Iupati have regressed while AD still whiffs. And this was supposed to be a stronger OL. Maybe too much learning curve coupled with new players at positions. Again though, the one on one match ups tell a huge story of lack of technique, doubt and deflated psyche. I have seen Staley punch and retaliate one on one before. I just have not seen it...yet.

I also expected, my man Iupati, to be much better. I have to be patient...which I am, but I don't have to like it. I wanna be just like Sus!!!!

Aug 30, 2011 at 1:56 PM

#807

Joecool
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Originally posted by oldman9er:

Originally posted by ninertico:
Funny, I forget who, but some beat writer mentioned that Rachal was the best at pass protecting on Saturday. Man, it's that bad.

Believe it or not, so far in THIS pre-season and THIS pre-season only? Rachal has been our best OL.

( not joking )

I have a feeling when we run the real offense in a game, there will be more thinking to do and Rachal's performance won't be as strong.

Aug 30, 2011 at 2:20 PM

#808

Jakemall
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Not great? He was absolutely the worst lineman in all of football at RT and RG for three years. And worse by nearly another 50% based on QB pressures and sacks. That's what I'm talking about.

Again, he was our best RG last season. RT is where he was lacking...and even there he was better than Kwame. I'm sure you can find the run averages and QB averages when the line had Snyder in last season vs Rachal.

Baas was the one that sucked at guard. Amazingly he did well at center.

This is your assertion. Back it up.

I believe I replied to your unsupported assertion.

Or in other words, you first.

[ Edited by Jakemall on Aug 30, 2011 at 2:21 PM ]

Aug 30, 2011 at 2:21 PM

#809

HessianDud
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Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Good news: Goodwin is now officially the top C on the depth chart:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers.html?full_args=08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers&blockID=556500&feedID=5936

GOOD NEWS..THANK YOU BASED GOD

Goodwin hasn't been great, but this had to happen. Snyder's value is as an interior backup. I'm glad he got lots of practice snaps at C, but we need to get that line to gel fast, and Goodwin has to be the starter, just because of his experience.

Aug 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM

#810

Jakemall
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Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Good news: Goodwin is now officially the top C on the depth chart:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers.html?full_args=08/30/11/49ers-notes-Goodwin-atop-depth-chart-at-/l_49ers&blockID=556500&feedID=5936

GOOD NEWS..THANK YOU BASED GOD

Goodwin hasn't been great, but this had to happen. Snyder's value is as an interior backup. I'm glad he got lots of practice snaps at C, but we need to get that line to gel fast, and Goodwin has to be the starter, just because of his experience.

It also allows for more competition at RG...