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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
He wants an elite QB just like every other coach. He can run a successful pass game with a game manager level QB. Russell Wilson has shown he has been capable of that in the past and they got him for nothing. Fields is an explosive runner who can potentially be utilized in more than one way and they also got him for nothing. Neither are long term investments or indicators of what Smith (the OC, not HC or GM) ideally wants at the position.

You might be right about Fields being uncoachable. Who knows. You're putting an awful lot of weight in two comments he's made in his career, one of which isn't remotely negative. It's also odd coming from someone who was critical of his coaches in Chicago, lol. Coachable or not, he's in the conversation for worst starting QB in the league being kind.

It's apparent to me, over years of watching JF sulk and look disinterested. His comments were bench worthy. You don't finger point others in media particularly your coaches. Zach Wilson got benched for postgame comments. Read up on Fields a bit. Here's a bit: The animosity stemmed from Fields ignoring Foles while the veteran was trying to teach something to the rookie. According to Dunne, Foles and Fields "could not stand each other."

here is more:

"The part you don't like about it is that there's a teachable moment in every point of practice," Lucas added. "There's teachable moments in the building during the day, how you carry yourself as a quarterback. ... When you've got two guys that have won as much as Nick and seen as much as Andy, and you don't take that information in, because you're a little standoff-ish and a little abrasive, you're wasting that opportunity."

Lucas here is former Bears director of player personnel Josh Lucas, the Andy in the equation, is Dalton

https://fansided.com/posts/steelers-officially-have-reason-to-worry-about-justin-fields-relationship-with-russell-wilson-01hxsvejshkc
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on May 29, 2024 at 4:46 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's apparent to me, over years of watching JF sulk and look disinterested. His comments were bench worthy. You don't finger point others in media particularly your coaches. Zach Wilson got benched for postgame comments. Read up on Fields a bit. Here's a bit: The animosity stemmed from Fields ignoring Foles while the veteran was trying to teach something to the rookie. According to Dunne, Foles and Fields "could not stand each other."

here is more:

"The part you don't like about it is that there's a teachable moment in every point of practice," Lucas added. "There's teachable moments in the building during the day, how you carry yourself as a quarterback. ... When you've got two guys that have won as much as Nick and seen as much as Andy, and you don't take that information in, because you're a little standoff-ish and a little abrasive, you're wasting that opportunity."

Lucas here is former Bears director of player personnel Josh Lucas, the Andy in the equation, is Dalton

https://fansided.com/posts/steelers-officially-have-reason-to-worry-about-justin-fields-relationship-with-russell-wilson-01hxsvejshkc

Not sure how you hold this opinion and think he eventually starts over Wilson, who was almost assuredly guaranteed a full look as starter at signing.

Not accountable.
Not coachable.
Fails to pass loyalty test.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Not sure how you hold this opinion and think he eventually starts over Wilson, who was almost assuredly guaranteed a full look as starter at signing.

Not accountable.
Not coachable.
Fails to pass loyalty test.

Wilson is burnt toast. DEN already paid the price for Wilson and was willing to eat a massive hit simply to get him off roster for no comp. So if he doesn't succeed as QB1, which he most likely won't then they will look to QB2

Riddick also sees Wilson starting and Fields taking over so did Rosenthal. Riddick is talking here

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wilson is burnt toast. DEN already paid the price for Wilson and was willing to eat a massive hit simply to get him off roster for no comp. So if he doesn't succeed as QB1, which he most likely won't then they will look to QB2

Riddick also sees Wilson starting and Fields taking over so did Rosenthal. Riddick is talking here


Clearly he doesn't believe he's uncoachable.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wilson is burnt toast. DEN already paid the price for Wilson and was willing to eat a massive hit simply to get him off roster for no comp. So if he doesn't succeed as QB1, which he most likely won't then they will look to QB2

Riddick also sees Wilson starting and Fields taking over so did Rosenthal. Riddick is talking here


Clearly he doesn't believe he's uncoachable.

yeah i don't pretend he views it 100% same to me, but i do see similarities. Riddick seems to think Russ will start to open, JF eventually will start, and there is a scheme fit with Justin and Arthur Smith and QB running plays a big part of that, and I agree with all those things.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on May 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah i don't pretend he views it 100% same to me, but i do see similarities. Riddick seems to think Russ will start to open, JF eventually will start, and there is a scheme fit with Russ and Arthur Smith and QB running plays a big part of that, and I agree with all those things.

Yea he made a pretty awful comparison with Tannehill to get there. Tannehill is an athlete for sure, but he can pass the ball and had some success prior to Smith's coaching.

I think there's a chance Fields starts, but it will require Wilson playing terribly or getting hurt to get there. These guys are still high on Fields as a prospect obviously.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah i don't pretend he views it 100% same to me, but i do see similarities. Riddick seems to think Russ will start to open, JF eventually will start, and there is a scheme fit with Russ and Arthur Smith and QB running plays a big part of that, and I agree with all those things.

Yea he made a pretty awful comparison with Tannehill to get there. Tannehill is an athlete for sure, but he can pass the ball and had some success prior to Smith's coaching.

I think there's a chance Fields starts, but it will require Wilson playing terribly or getting hurt to get there. These guys are still high on Fields as a prospect obviously.

Wilson will most likely get the start. He will probably be on a 5-6 game trial though.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Wilson will most likely get the start. He will probably be on a 5-6 game trial though.

exactly. i'm not bullish on Russ watching him play, and seeing two pretty darn good coaches both hit the eject
I want nothing more this season than Wilson to suck for like 1/2 to 3/4 of the season before Fields comes in and does better....LOL.....

Uptick in realism this year!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Uptick in realism this year!



i have to hand it to madden they find ways to create social media buzz while not innovating their product in the past decade
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


i have to hand it to madden they find ways to create social media buzz while not innovating their product in the past decade

It really is trash.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


i have to hand it to madden they find ways to create social media buzz while not innovating their product in the past decade

It really is trash.

i wonder if this counts as "positionless" football? Kyle may be getting turned on here
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i wonder if this counts as "positionless" football? Kyle may be getting turned on here

Manually substitute him in as a free safety and then we'll be talking.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Rumored to be a possible return man next year lol

it's like the Steelers are being run by a 12 year old playing Madden

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