Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Trey Lance only played 1 game with Kittle and targeted him 2x. He's played in 0 games with CMC. He's played with a broken finger and in a monsoon. He's only thrown 102 passes. He has never played 2 full games back to back. It might be a tad premature to form any opinion on him. pic.twitter.com/rnsCYu9817

— Ryan G Hensley (@ryanghensley) June 28, 2023

this helps explain who's he's played with.

I don't lie … Trey Lance's regular season QBR = 37 😂😂 …. Jimmy G's playoff QBR = 51

This actually takes into consideration that Jimmy was playing good teams while Trey was playing the Texans and the Bears 😂 pic.twitter.com/5Q0EeQN9IS

— Flave (@MyOwnFlave) July 4, 2023

this one I just think is funny. Lol I saw It at the same time

Sam Darnolds 2022 qbr in his "turnaround" season 48.5

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Trey Lance only played 1 game with Kittle and targeted him 2x. He's played in 0 games with CMC. He's played with a broken finger and in a monsoon. He's only thrown 102 passes. He has never played 2 full games back to back. It might be a tad premature to form any opinion on him. pic.twitter.com/rnsCYu9817

— Ryan G Hensley (@ryanghensley) June 28, 2023

this helps explain who's he's played with.

I don't lie … Trey Lance's regular season QBR = 37 😂😂 …. Jimmy G's playoff QBR = 51

This actually takes into consideration that Jimmy was playing good teams while Trey was playing the Texans and the Bears 😂 pic.twitter.com/5Q0EeQN9IS

— Flave (@MyOwnFlave) July 4, 2023

this one I just think is funny. Lol I saw It at the same time

Sam Darnolds 2022 qbr in his "turnaround" season 48.5

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
CMC was traded (10-21-22) before Darnold even played last season (11-27-22).

CMC and Darnold were both injured at times and missed multiple game during the 2021 season. They did play 4 games together (with DJ Moore as well), and the Panthers were 3-1 in those games. Darnold's passer rating in those games was 102, 99.1, 95.7, and 26.3 (24-6 loss to the Patriots).

Darnold played in 6 games last season, all games that DJ Moore played in (again, no CMC because he was already traded to the Niners). The Panthers went 4-2 in those games. Darnold had passer ratings of 103.8, 85.4, 108.1, 121.4, 108.1, and 2.8 (he got injured and didn't finish the game).

Robby Anderson? Lol come on now.

2021 Panthers ranked 21st in points allowed, 2022 they ranked 19th in points allowed. 2021 they were very good in yards and yards per play (top 5 in both) but in 2022 they dropped to 22nd/16th in each.

Let's not act like they are anywhere close to the 49ers in terms of offensive weapons, defensive talent/strength, or play calling. But if your argument is that Darnold plays well when he has weapons at RB and WR, we agree.

That is the only "narrative" here. What is yours?

So Mac gets hurt and they can't do anything? DJ and Robbie were still there. And yes Robbie Anderson is a functional nfl starter.

Yes it's a narrative if you think the entirety of Darnolds issues are because of coaching. The fact thst you use the most overrated stat in football just like faitfhul shows everything.

What was Treys qb rating when he had a full compliment of starting weapons? Amazing qb rating can go up with surrounding talent. Doesn't tell you how the game went though.

Lol, Robbie Anderson.. first off it's Chosen Anderson now. If you recall he got into it with Wilks, and was traded afterward for a 6th and 7th. Turns out, Carolina got the better of that deal, as Chosen did nothing for Arizona, and has been released by Arizona. He's now with MIA and he's no lock to make the team. He's got a $1mil salary / cap hit, and a gtd money of like $100k. Does that sound like NFL starter dollars? Trey Lance knows what I am talking about

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh we're switching to QBR?

Trey Lance:
2022: 34.9
2021: 39.0

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So a 6th year guy with 55 starts is slightly better than a guy who's played 4 career games. Imagine that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh we're switching to QBR?

Trey Lance:
2022: 34.9
2021: 39.0

So a 6th year guy with 55 starts is slightly better than a guy who's played 4 career games. Imagine that.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So a 6th year guy with 55 starts is slightly better than a guy who's played 4 career games. Imagine that.

It's a valid point but again, what do we need either one of these guys for? Backup role, spot starting… play a game or a couple if Brock isn't ready to go.

We're in trouble if we need them for longer than that. All we have then is hope. Hope Trey can develop. Hope Sam can turn it around here.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I really don't know the answer - which quarterback rating system is better?

ESPN QBR or NFL's?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I really don't know the answer - which quarterback rating system is better?

ESPN QBR or NFL's?

QBR > Qb rating.

Not to say QBR doesn't have flaws because it does. It's just a better metric.

It's Batting average vs WAR in baseball.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Unfortunately, I'm not a big follower of baseball but I think I know what you're saying.

Thanks for feedback. Brock had the highest passer rating in the NFL from when he started till the end of the season. I'm curious where he fell in QBR. Brock was 65.6 but idk where that falls overall

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Oh we're switching to QBR?

Trey Lance:
2022: 34.9
2021: 39.0

So a 6th year guy with 55 starts is slightly better than a guy who's played 4 career games. Imagine that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Sam Darnolds 2022 qbr in his "turnaround" season 48.5

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I really don't know the answer - which quarterback rating system is better?

ESPN QBR or NFL's?

QBR > Qb rating.

Not to say QBR doesn't have flaws because it does. It's just a better metric.

It's Batting average vs WAR in baseball.

Unfortunately, I'm not a big follower of baseball but I think I know what you're saying.

Thanks for feedback. Brock had the highest passer rating in the NFL from when he started till the end of the season. I'm curious where he fell in QBR. Brock was 65.6 but idk where that falls overall

edit: Brock would of been fifth in the nfl, right behind Hurts

Originally posted by Furlow:
Here you go not quoting yourself again. I wonder why?

48.5 is only "slightly better" than 34.9 and 39.0? With lesser weapons and not as good of a defense?

Talk about a NARRATIVE.