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  • dj43
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Give him an assistant job if he wants one. Let him learn to coach. I could see him doing well at coaching with experience.

A QB coach is generally a stepping stone just after an offensive assistant and still under the very watchful eye of the HC or OC. Many observers have suggested Smith would make a good coach at some point as long as he doesn't ask for support from the WZ.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Give him an assistant job if he wants one. Let him learn to coach. I could see him doing well at coaching with experience.

A QB coach is generally a stepping stone just after an offensive assistant and still under the very watchful eye of the HC or OC. Many observers have suggested Smith would make a good coach at some point as long as he doesn't ask for support from the WZ.

That I did not know. Thanks. Perfect fit if he wants.
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Yeach. Totally funny that I would want an actual QB coach to coach my team's rookie QB.

Just hate, amirite?

You realize that every coach had to start without prior experience, right?

Sure. And my opinion is wanting one with experience. Yet you take that as hate. Just ridiculous.

You didn't say you prefer a QB coach with experience. You said "PASS" and then went on and on about coaches needing experience as if ALL coaches didn't start out with NO experience. You and the other Alex haters are also claiming that there's "no proof" that Alex will be a good coach when multiple players and coaches have attested to his leadership, intelligence, and ability to teach.

The guy isn't even playing football anymore, yet you and the rest of the hater crew STILL want to come in here and denigrate him somehow. It's pathetic.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Yeach. Totally funny that I would want an actual QB coach to coach my team's rookie QB.

Just hate, amirite?

You realize that every coach had to start without prior experience, right?

Sure. And my opinion is wanting one with experience. Yet you take that as hate. Just ridiculous.

You didn't say you prefer a QB coach with experience. You said "PASS" and then went on and on about coaches needing experience as if ALL coaches didn't start out with NO experience. You and the other Alex haters are also claiming that there's "no proof" that Alex will be a good coach when multiple players and coaches have attested to his leadership, intelligence, and ability to teach.

The guy isn't even playing football anymore, yet you and the rest of the hater crew STILL want to come in here and denigrate him somehow. It's pathetic.

Still absurd to me that you consider this hate. Try to take your emotions out of the conversation for once.

I DID say I preferred a coach with experience. My opinion. I never once said coaches "needed experience." I said that's what I would want. Not sure if you are purposely twisting my words or just not understanding what you are reading.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Oct 13, 2021 at 1:30 PM ]
  • dj43
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.

I just dont understand the logic. Is it really "hate" that I prefer an actual seasoned QB coach? Our franchise has a lot riding on the development of Trey Lance. I would prefer the QB coach to help teach him be someone with experience. But somehow, thats taken as hate.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.

I just dont understand the logic. Is it really "hate" that I prefer an actual seasoned QB coach? Our franchise has a lot riding on the development of Trey Lance. I would prefer the QB coach to help teach him be someone with experience. But somehow, thats taken as hate.

I too would prefer an experienced coach with a track record. You can't project a player as being a good coach just because he was a good player or is a good interview. The ability to teach and get students or players to learn is a real skill. Many great players know they don't have the patience to coach. They feel they would get frustrated with guys that aren't as good as them. Plus, the great players are usually financially well off and don't need the job and the stress that goes with it.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.

I just dont understand the logic. Is it really "hate" that I prefer an actual seasoned QB coach? Our franchise has a lot riding on the development of Trey Lance. I would prefer the QB coach to help teach him be someone with experience. But somehow, thats taken as hate.

I too would prefer an experienced coach with a track record. You can't project a player as being a good coach just because he was a good player or is a good interview. The ability to teach and get students or players to learn is a real skill. Many great players know they don't have the patience to coach. They feel they would get frustrated with guys that aren't as good as them. Plus, the great players are usually financially well off and don't need the job and the stress that goes with it.

And I have absolutely zero doubts that Alex helped Mahomes out tremendously in areas of how to be a professional, how to study, how to prepare, etc. In the plethora of articles about the two of their relationship, that is highlighted in every one of them. But a QB coach does substantially more than that. Its not hate to question if Alex is ready to do more than what he did with Mahomes. I prefer someone seasoned.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Oct 13, 2021 at 2:45 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.

I just dont understand the logic. Is it really "hate" that I prefer an actual seasoned QB coach? Our franchise has a lot riding on the development of Trey Lance. I would prefer the QB coach to help teach him be someone with experience. But somehow, thats taken as hate.

I too would prefer an experienced coach with a track record. You can't project a player as being a good coach just because he was a good player or is a good interview. The ability to teach and get students or players to learn is a real skill. Many great players know they don't have the patience to coach. They feel they would get frustrated with guys that aren't as good as them. Plus, the great players are usually financially well off and don't need the job and the stress that goes with it.

And I have absolutely zero doubts that Alex helped Mahomes out tremendously in areas of how to be a professional, how to study, how to prepare, etc. In the plethora of articles about the two of their relationship, that is highlighted in every one of them. But a QB coach does substantially more than that. Its not hate to question if Alex is ready to do more than what he did with Mahomes. I prefer someone seasoned.

If you look around at ex players that have gone into coaching, many of them are guys that had rather short careers. They weren't really ready to leave the game. The players tha thad a nice long career don't need the money and just want to spend time with the family. The better high profile guys get TV jobs which pay more and don't require as much time.
  • dj43
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Try to take your emotions out of the conversation.

Good advice for everyone. If nothing else, it allows all of us highly-compensated mods to sit back consider where we will spend all our cash.

I just dont understand the logic. Is it really "hate" that I prefer an actual seasoned QB coach? Our franchise has a lot riding on the development of Trey Lance. I would prefer the QB coach to help teach him be someone with experience. But somehow, thats taken as hate.

To be candid, a bit of it may be your well-known disregard for Smith as a player. The rest of it is the current cultural preference to see disagreement as "hate," which is a perversion of the actual meaning of hate, and one I personally believe shows intellectual laziness. (Now that I have said that, let the flaming begin. )

As to the matter of qualifications of QB coaches; a quick check around the league shows the large majority of QB coaches are quite inexperienced. 3 years or less is rather the norm. In a number of other cases, the "QB coach" also has other responsibilities. ie., assistant offensive coordinator/run game, or the like. The Rams guy is in his third year total, and, judging by Goff's miserable time there, he did nothing to help that kid. 49er Rich Scangarello, with 7 years total experience in the pros, is one of the most experienced in the NFL, and four of those years were not specifically as QB coach. In short, the position of NFL QB coach is one of the lesser lights on the coaching tree.

So, I wonder, with the dearth of good QBs around the league, is a part of it a lack of focus on the tutelage being provided for young coaches, and even the vets? It seems coaching may be getting lip service that is not demonstrated in experienced quality QB coaches.

Alex Smith on MNF countdown pre game!
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Alex Smith on MNF countdown pre game!

He did a good job. Seemed pretty natural.
this video is awesome.

so interesting. 2 totally different situations they both experienced. essentially they're both right I feel like



also, wish steve woula stfu a bit more and let Smith speak instead of repeating the same point 3 times
[ Edited by SkyZer0 on Nov 9, 2021 at 6:28 PM ]
Really not feeling Smith or Brees on tv. Just stiff and robotic to me
Originally posted by lamontb:
Really not feeling Smith or Brees on tv. Just stiff and robotic to me

well at least they get you pretty stiff when you feel them
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