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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I'm not already assuming the worst I am listening to the evidence, did you hear what the camera guy was saying? You can't always place the blame elsewhere bc You didn't know the rules. Just listen to the audio and it's pretty obvious. Even if it wasn't for a huge advantage it still occurred. This may be a smaller incident, but it certainly is Yet another incident.

All the cheating in the world won't help them win another Super Bowl. In my opinion they are never going to win another one especially since Baltimore in Kansas City have emerged as well as the Niners and saints

The cameraman violated a rule anyway this is spun. He's now suspended so of course he was acting sketchy. That's not to protect NE it's to protect himself. I also don't know what's so hard to grasp here. They were filming a scout so yeah the camera crew could think it would be cool to film the Bengal sideline because what do you think he's scouting? Now that's a rules violation and they will be punished but their story checks out here. Unless Bill is retarded and sends a crew in Boston t shirts to spy right in front of Bengals personnel in a press box.

They didn't need 15 minutes of footage of the Bengals staff running practice. 90 seconds would have been more than enough.
The scout story is a smokescreen.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
They didn't need 15 minutes of footage of the Bengals staff running practice. 90 seconds would have been more than enough.
The scout story is a smokescreen.

That's not how filming works. You compile a larger sample and slim it down to 90 seconds. If you're at a game for 3 hours you're going to use the entire time. I get that it seems awfully convenient to film the Bengals sideline for 8 minutes and likely longer if they weren't stopped but it just doesn't change the rest of the facts here.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Dec 20, 2019 at 7:46 AM ]
Originally posted by tjd808185:
At the moment they weren't but it is believable that the crew was trying to show how things would look like thru the scouts eyes. You wouldn't tape the scout for that. It was a rules violation but the hoopla is more likely than not just because it was NE. If the league can prove that football guys broke down the footage then yeah you come down with the hammer but as of now I'm willing to buy that it was a separate mistake.
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".
[ Edited by theduke85 on Dec 20, 2019 at 7:36 AM ]
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
At the moment they weren't but it is believable that the crew was trying to show how things would look like thru the scouts eyes. You wouldn't tape the scout for that. It was a rules violation but the hoopla is more likely than not just because it was NE. If the league can prove that football guys broke down the footage then yeah you come down with the hammer but as of now I'm willing to buy that it was a separate mistake.
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

Truth. RWs play gets disrespected so much. Idk for how many years we have fans here calling average at best. And if you say hes good you get called a seahawks fan. I dont like Wilson, but hes a really good QB.

Same with Brady, they cant let go that Joe isnt the GOAT anymore. It sucks, its not like i want that, but i can accept it. We still got Jerry
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
At the moment they weren't but it is believable that the crew was trying to show how things would look like thru the scouts eyes. You wouldn't tape the scout for that. It was a rules violation but the hoopla is more likely than not just because it was NE. If the league can prove that football guys broke down the footage then yeah you come down with the hammer but as of now I'm willing to buy that it was a separate mistake.
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

Truth. RWs play gets disrespected so much. Idk for how many years we have fans here calling average at best. And if you say hes good you get called a seahawks fan. I dont like Wilson, but hes a really good QB.

Same with Brady, they cant let go that Joe isnt the GOAT anymore. It sucks, its not like i want that, but i can accept it. We still got Jerry
So.....Pats get caught cheating 5x over and you're still calling them the best ever?
Originally posted by theduke85:
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

You couldn't be more wrong about that. No insecurity needed when you're dealing with cheaters. It's just a statement of fact

And as far as the Seahawks go you should know they are the luckiest team in the NFL. And less you're in complete denial which is OK. We don't need to come up with excuses for either team. It is what it is
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

You couldn't be more wrong about that. No insecurity needed when you're dealing with cheaters. It's just a statement of fact

And as far as the Seahawks go you should know they are the luckiest team in the NFL. And less you're in complete denial which is OK. We don't need to come up with excuses for either team. It is what it is
You are the poster child for everything I just described.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

You couldn't be more wrong about that. No insecurity needed when you're dealing with cheaters. It's just a statement of fact

And as far as the Seahawks go you should know they are the luckiest team in the NFL. And less you're in complete denial which is OK. We don't need to come up with excuses for either team. It is what it is
You are the poster child for everything I just described.

Half his posts are basically in the Seahawks thread bashing RW lol.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

You couldn't be more wrong about that. No insecurity needed when you're dealing with cheaters. It's just a statement of fact

And as far as the Seahawks go you should know they are the luckiest team in the NFL. And less you're in complete denial which is OK. We don't need to come up with excuses for either team. It is what it is
You are the poster child for everything I just described.

And you are exactly the type of person I was describing that does not know the ins and outs of football and the intricacies of going through progressions and what makes a great passer Or even a great quarterback against good defenses which he is not. It's hilarious that you could ignore all the evidence.

Let me guess did he win his one and only Super Bowl? Or was it the defense and Marshawn lynch? How about this one..... did he have the biggest choke job in the history of the Super Bowl? Almost any other quarterback would've won that Super Bowl, any game manager Like Alex Smith even . It's just hilarious! thanks for proving my point. Keep defending Russell Wilson, his efforts have gotten Nothing whatsoever except for keeping his team competitive. You can say the same about a lot of quarterbacks that keep their team competitive against bad defenses.

Hey how is Russell Wilson been doing the last six games getting absolutely destroyed and looking like an above average quarterback at best. Except he isn't going against great defenses and he is still sucking. Great job! can't win in the playoffs against good defenses. I love it. Hey, Just curious, do you defend Andrew luck too? Can I get a hey now? He has some great stats as well but then again he sucks in the playoffs.

Nice game with very good receivers against a s**tty d
[ Edited by elguapo on Dec 25, 2019 at 4:06 AM ]
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Half his posts are basically in the Seahawks thread bashing RW lol.

Those are usually the best posts on the Zone.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Half his posts are basically in the Seahawks thread bashing RW lol.

Those are usually the best posts on the Zone.

Thanks JT you're the man! You'll always get this guy trying to troll me and insite it's really half of his posts. I miss having a stalker but he's really picking up the slack It's so annoying but you know he's got to do what he's got to do. I kind of feel sorry for him.

Anyways I'm glad you and I know the truth we've been preaching this for years and what has Russell Wilson done..... absolutely nothing. He puts up good stats and is finally a better quarterback than he was however he still can't beat good defenses and now Struggles against bad teams and loses.

Merry Christmas brother
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
At the moment they weren't but it is believable that the crew was trying to show how things would look like thru the scouts eyes. You wouldn't tape the scout for that. It was a rules violation but the hoopla is more likely than not just because it was NE. If the league can prove that football guys broke down the footage then yeah you come down with the hammer but as of now I'm willing to buy that it was a separate mistake.
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

They got caught cheating here. They were breaking obvious rules.
They preciously were caught cheating in the same manner.
Those are the facts here.

Any defense in the face of the above facts is an excuse.

The excuse you are offering is that they were incompetent at covering up the cheating. It is not a strong excuse.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Dec 25, 2019 at 7:49 PM ]
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Half his posts are basically in the Seahawks thread bashing RW lol.

Those are usually the best posts on the Zone.

Thanks JT you're the man! You'll always get this guy trying to troll me and insite it's really half of his posts. I miss having a stalker but he's really picking up the slack It's so annoying but you know he's got to do what he's got to do. I kind of feel sorry for him.

Anyways I'm glad you and I know the truth we've been preaching this for years and what has Russell Wilson done..... absolutely nothing. He puts up good stats and is finally a better quarterback than he was however he still can't beat good defenses and now Struggles against bad teams and loses.

Merry Christmas brother

Even if insite. Lol ucla
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Dec 25, 2019 at 9:28 PM ]
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by theduke85:
Of course this is why people are outraged about it.

There's a contingent on this board that are extremely insecure when it comes to the Patriots, because NE has more rings than SF, and Brady has more rings than Montana. That means the status quo for them is to diminish NE's accomplishments, and look for reasons to invalidate them. This incident is another example of that mentality -- it's an opportunity to discredit them. Like you said in your other post, if this was a concentrated by NE it makes no sense, because they were just brazenly filming without any attempt to be discreet about it.

Same thing with the Seahawks. They're our rivals, so we always need to come up with excuses for why their accomplishments don't count. "Oh, the refs favor them". Or, "oh, they're just really lucky all the time".

You couldn't be more wrong about that. No insecurity needed when you're dealing with cheaters. It's just a statement of fact

And as far as the Seahawks go you should know they are the luckiest team in the NFL. And less you're in complete denial which is OK. We don't need to come up with excuses for either team. It is what it is
You are the poster child for everything I just described.

And you are exactly the type of person I was describing that does not know the ins and outs of football and the intricacies of going through progressions and what makes a great passer Or even a great quarterback against good defenses which he is not. It's hilarious that you could ignore all the evidence.

Let me guess did he win his one and only Super Bowl? Or was it the defense and Marshawn lynch? How about this one..... did he have the biggest choke job in the history of the Super Bowl? Almost any other quarterback would've won that Super Bowl, any game manager Like Alex Smith even . It's just hilarious! thanks for proving my point. Keep defending Russell Wilson, his efforts have gotten Nothing whatsoever except for keeping his team competitive. You can say the same about a lot of quarterbacks that keep their team competitive against bad defenses.

Hey how is Russell Wilson been doing the last six games getting absolutely destroyed and looking like an above average quarterback at best. Except he isn't going against great defenses and he is still sucking. Great job! can't win in the playoffs against good defenses. I love it. Hey, Just curious, do you defend Andrew luck too? Can I get a hey now? He has some great stats as well but then again he sucks in the playoffs.

Nice game with very good receivers against a s**tty d

Nobody reading this lol.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Half his posts are basically in the Seahawks thread bashing RW lol.

Those are usually the best posts on the Zone.

Thanks JT you're the man! You'll always get this guy trying to troll me and insite it's really half of his posts. I miss having a stalker but he's really picking up the slack It's so annoying but you know he's got to do what he's got to do. I kind of feel sorry for him.

Anyways I'm glad you and I know the truth we've been preaching this for years and what has Russell Wilson done..... absolutely nothing. He puts up good stats and is finally a better quarterback than he was however he still can't beat good defenses and now Struggles against bad teams and loses.

Merry Christmas brother

We know the truth!!

Merry Christmas!
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