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They should have their draft picks stripped, at least
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
My honest take: I think they should be fined, but if you think this is remotely in the same stratosphere as spygate or deflategate then context means nothing to you.

This was the Patriots' production crew, completely separate from football operations.

They received permission/credentials from the Browns (it was their stadium).

The Patriots already have ~7 episodes of their series online and this was supposed to be their next episode on advance scouting.

They were openly wearing Patriots/Kraft attire and were holding a camera... if they were cheating than they're pretty stupid.

The Bengals are 1-12. Again if they were cheating than they're pretty stupid.

Eight minutes of real time footage on the sidelines to put together a small clip to "show what the scout is doing" is pretty reasonable.

I do think they should be fined because what they did will probably violate some rule. But to even compare this to spygate/deflategate is laughable.

All of this. But its the pats. People want to believe anything bad about them. This couldve been an onion article and wouldve still been taken literal.
Still cheating.
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team


People like you are why the Patriots cheat and will always get away with it.
Of all the teams to spy on......the bungels? Lmao
Originally posted by Thanos89:
Of all the teams to spy on......the bungels? Lmao

The first time they got caught was against the Jets. Anything to get an advantage
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team


People like you are why the Patriots cheat and will always get away with it.

Ya, im the reason, that makes sense lol. Last time i checked, when Pats get in trouble for something 99.9% of football fans call for their head. So quite the opposite.

Once again, this was the Pats camera crew for their Tv show. These werent scouts, coaches, FO ppl, this had nothing to do with the Pats football team. This was taped for their new episode. They were even dressed up in Pats gear and standing out in the open.

Now people like you, is the reason we have to listen about this for the next couple of days or even a week, non stop. Its a dumb mistake from their tv crew, Pats will get a fine, and thats it. As much as you want it to be something else, it wont bc nothing like that happened.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Dec 10, 2019 at 10:45 AM ]
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team


People like you are why the Patriots cheat and will always get away with it.

Ya, im the reason, that makes sense lol. Last time i checked, when Pats get in trouble for something 99.9% of football fans call for their head. So quite the opposite.

Once again, this was the Pats camera crew for their Tv show. These werent scouts, coaches, FO ppl, this had nothing to do with the Pats football team. This was taped for their new episode. They were even dressed up in Pats gear and standing out in the open.

Now people like you, is the reason we have to listen about this for the next couple of days or even a week, non stop. Its a dumb mistake from their tv crew, Pats will get a fine, and thats it. As much as you want it to be something else, it wont bc nothing like that happened.

Oh mhmm. Sounds like a great excuse.

"During Spygate investigation, NFL found that Patriots had excuses ready in case an advance scout got caught filming another team. One of those excuses: Tell them you need the footage for a team show"

Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team


People like you are why the Patriots cheat and will always get away with it.

Ya, im the reason, that makes sense lol. Last time i checked, when Pats get in trouble for something 99.9% of football fans call for their head. So quite the opposite.

Once again, this was the Pats camera crew for their Tv show. These werent scouts, coaches, FO ppl, this had nothing to do with the Pats football team. This was taped for their new episode. They were even dressed up in Pats gear and standing out in the open.

Now people like you, is the reason we have to listen about this for the next couple of days or even a week, non stop. Its a dumb mistake from their tv crew, Pats will get a fine, and thats it. As much as you want it to be something else, it wont bc nothing like that happened.

Oh mhmm. Sounds like a great excuse.

"During Spygate investigation, NFL found that Patriots had excuses ready in case an advance scout got caught filming another team. One of those excuses: Tell them you need the footage for a team show"



Yup this pointless. Ignore the facts, have fun thinking something happened, and then proceed to get outraged when its just a minor fine.
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by MagaBosa:
Belichick should be suspended for at least a year.

Make Kraft sell the team


People like you are why the Patriots cheat and will always get away with it.

Ya, im the reason, that makes sense lol. Last time i checked, when Pats get in trouble for something 99.9% of football fans call for their head. So quite the opposite.

Once again, this was the Pats camera crew for their Tv show. These werent scouts, coaches, FO ppl, this had nothing to do with the Pats football team. This was taped for their new episode. They were even dressed up in Pats gear and standing out in the open.

Now people like you, is the reason we have to listen about this for the next couple of days or even a week, non stop. Its a dumb mistake from their tv crew, Pats will get a fine, and thats it. As much as you want it to be something else, it wont bc nothing like that happened.

Oh mhmm. Sounds like a great excuse.

"During Spygate investigation, NFL found that Patriots had excuses ready in case an advance scout got caught filming another team. One of those excuses: Tell them you need the footage for a team show"


Crazy thing is the league black balled Kaepernick for something that had nothing to do with the football competition. I actually think Bilicheck (sp) should be banned for life as this is not his first offense. They should also be stripped of all of the super bowl championships they won during his coaching tenure.

Everyone keeps saying they all do it but for some reason the Patriot's are the only organization that keeps getting caught or suspected of this level of cheating.

The Patriot ownership group should also have to re-pay everyone that lost bets on the games that they thought were being played under fair circumstances in which the Patriots cheated via video taping opponents walk throughs and side line signals.

The lack of integrity in football will be it's demise (Making sure the Rams get to the super bowl last season in order to build the NFL market in Los Angeles, then changing the PI rule only to continue to ignore blatant PI non calls even when challenged). Greed is also killing the sport of football...
[ Edited by glorydayz on Dec 10, 2019 at 11:02 AM ]
Interesting. These guys as presently configured are done.

As separate from being done they did not need to do this and put themselves in a position where they would be judged for this. Stupid.

As much as Tom Brady wants to play until he's 45 he is a shell of his former self and should call it a career.

Separate from all that trading away their Steve Young in Jimmy Garoppolo was a supremely stupid move.

It worked out for them to win Super Bowl LIII, but it won't work out for them long term.
Well, looks like they were officially busted.

"The Athletic's Paul Dehner Jr. reports the Patriots sent a three-person video crew to record Cincinnati's sideline for "about eight minutes" in Sunday's matchup against the Browns.

Bill Belichick obviously denied any involvement on WEEI-FM hours before the organization issued an official statement on Monday night claiming the production crew for their documentary on an advanced scout didn't know the NFL policy; that of course is the exact excuse New England's videographers were told to use if asked what they were doing during the Spygate investigation. That case settled with Belichick being fined $500,000 while Robert Kraft and the organization were hit with a $250,000 fine and loss of a first-round pick. The Deflategate investigation eight years later resulted in another lost first-round pick and four-game suspension for Tom Brady. Any guilty verdict in this most recent controversy would obviously bring down an impactful ruling. Suspensions across the board are on the table."
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