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Has he been talking to Gould?
Originally posted by Jcool:

Nonsense.

He's in the last year of his deal, is the 11th highest paid RB in the league, and there's only two guys ahead of him who aren't really in the conversation for being better than him (Lamar Miller and Jet).

Who is going to give up meaningful trade assets this late in the year for a one year rental on an RB who clearly wants to the break the bank?

He can request and demand trades all he wants, but who exactly would be knocking down the door to trade for him?
...And about 10 minutes after posting that I was on ESPN and Barnwell is making the same argument: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27167732/barnwell-why-chargers-extend-melvin-gordon-contract

I know some people don't like Barnwell but he's right on this one.
We could always use more RBs...
package Jet, and a 2021 2nd pick. done lol
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
package Jet, and a 2021 2nd pick. done lol

If they don't want to pay Gordon, they definitely aren't paying jet, and a RB isn't worth that 2nd round pick with the backs we already have.


What I would do is give 2020 1st, tevin Coleman, and Richard Sherman for Gordon and Casey Heyward.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Jul 12, 2019 at 3:11 PM ]
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by ForeverYoung8:
package Jet, and a 2021 2nd pick. done lol

If they don't want to pay Gordon, they definitely aren't paying Gordon, and a RB isn't worth that 2nd round pick with the backs we already have.


What I would do is give 2020 1st, tevin Coleman, and Richard Sherman for Gordon and Casey Heyward.

Then I am glad you aren't the GM.
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Nonsense.

He's in the last year of his deal, is the 11th highest paid RB in the league, and there's only two guys ahead of him who aren't really in the conversation for being better than him (Lamar Miller and Jet).

Who is going to give up meaningful trade assets this late in the year for a one year rental on an RB who clearly wants to the break the bank?

He can request and demand trades all he wants, but who exactly would be knocking down the door to trade for him?

I mean no one is gonna trade for him as a "one yr rental" he would have to have a contract in place.

He'd look good in Tampa Bay with Bruce....LA needs to pay Gordon, they got Rivers on borrowed time and need to go all-in this yr IMO.

Also not sure what you mean by "break the bank" you got guys like Watkins making $16M per and Sterling Shepard making $10M+per...you can't tell me they're more impactful than what Gordon does for that team.

cap keeps going up pay these dudes.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jul 12, 2019 at 6:18 AM ]
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
...And about 10 minutes after posting that I was on ESPN and Barnwell is making the same argument: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27167732/barnwell-why-chargers-extend-melvin-gordon-contract

I know some people don't like Barnwell but he's right on this one.

he brings up YPC yet their OL was one of the worst RB lines in football over that time span as well (2015-2017 per football outsiders). Gordon is a plus pass-blocker and a very good pass-catcher as well. He demands 8+ in the box which overall helps Rivers and that passing game.

Pay the man.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
If they don't want to pay Gordon, they definitely aren't paying Gordon, and a RB isn't worth that 2nd round pick with the backs we already have.

What I would do is give 2020 1st, tevin Coleman, and Richard Sherman for Gordon and Casey Heyward.

how about no lol
Well that's a bold move. How can you not be looking at how the Rams ran Todd Gurley into the ground last year and not want to secure more money for your future?

I mean I don't think owners want to set a precedent in this way by having guys not fulfill their contract. Other players are likely to follow if Gordon wins and you know the owners are in collusion about this stuff off record.

At the same time I've always felt players should lobby for more bonuses beyond their current pay if they exceed performance expectations. I'm interested.
[ Edited by T-9ers on Jul 12, 2019 at 6:30 AM ]
A few points
1, This is WHY the CBA agreed to a 5th year option for first round draft picks, gives them one more year to work out deal.
2. This is not he NBA, it is not a players league where players pick teams
3. Other teams cannot inquire about Gordon or even speak about him, he is a player UNDER CONTRACT by the chargers
4. How did this work out for Leveon Bell
5. I listen to NFL network and it is an empty threat because no team in their analysis has the cap space or desire to trade
6. Under the new CBA, the Chargers will reap heavy fines and game checks if he sits out, the ONLY one that will lose money is Gordon
7. The Chargers could get passive agressive, keep him on the fifth year option and franchise him next year. Would be way cheaper than paying him the 20 million a year he wants.
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Well that's a bold move. How can you not be looking at how the Rams ran Todd Gurley into the ground last year and not want to secure more money for your future?

I mean I don't think owners want to set a precedent in this way by having guys not fulfill their contract. Other players are likely to follow if Gordon wins and you know the owners are in collusion about this stuff off record.

At the same time I've always felt players should lobby for more bonuses beyond their current pay if they exceed performance expectations. I'm interested.

I mean he wouldn't be the first guy to hold out under the 5th yr option pretty sure Mack did it last yr...part of the issue imo is how little RB contracts are overall. His 5th yr option (which is the avg of the 3rd-25th highest Prior Year Salaries for the player's position) is like $5M AA and Ward's 5th yr options were like $4 & $3M more lol WTF.

I get the whole RB is replaceable but they formed over a 1st rd pick for this kid, he's touching the ball 20+ times a game and pass-blocking. Pay him what he's worth....in the same token I think WRs overall are overpaid (outside of the elite dudes) they're imo one of the most dependent positions in football. Can't tell me Jamison Crowder is worth $9.5M this yr but not Gordon.

I think shorter contracts with more guaranteed cash might be a thing in the future.
Originally posted by 9erred:
A few points
1, This is WHY the CBA agreed to a 5th year option for first round draft picks, gives them one more year to work out deal.
2. This is not he NBA, it is not a players league where players pick teams
3. Other teams cannot inquire about Gordon or even speak about him, he is a player UNDER CONTRACT by the chargers
4. How did this work out for Leveon Bell
5. I listen to NFL network and it is an empty threat because no team in their analysis has the cap space or desire to trade
6. Under the new CBA, the Chargers will reap heavy fines and game checks if he sits out, the ONLY one that will lose money is Gordon
7. The Chargers could get passive agressive, keep him on the fifth year option and franchise him next year. Would be way cheaper than paying him the 20 million a year he wants.

Where does he say he wants $20m per yr?

The CBA created the 5th yr option so they could have a rookie under a "cheap" contract for 5 yrs instead of 4, not so they could have an extra yr to work on a deal.

I agree everything favors the owners which imo is a problem...they make more money than any sports franchise and can't fork over a little more towards the players that do all the work? Come on now.

#proplayer
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