Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
What I didn't like was that he subtly or not so subtly indicated that people were racist or had certain prejudices because they make excuses for Jimmy but wanted to bury Kap and Dante because of skin color.
I mean, first of all, yes Kap and Dante had success in the NFL. But they had brief, initial success and then seemed to get progressively worse.
It's not like there weren't people making and aren't still making excuses for Kap, chief amongst them not the kneeling stuff that of course came later but that they changed the offense on him.
I mean, if your on field play declines you're going to get fewer opportunities. That's essentially, paraphrasing, what Kyle said regarding Dante last year and somehow I doubt his skin color had anything to do with it.
And yes, as far as Jimmy, number one does Oakland even see the Jimmy thread on here or the game thread comments? There are people who constantly complain about him and want to replace him. If it isn't for Mullens, it's for Matt Ryan. Or Sam Darnold for crying out loud. Or tank for Trevor Lawrence.
I mean the same logic could even be applied. Jimmy had great initial success here and was the talk of the league. Threw some picks still but 5-0 to close out the season. Energized the team. 49ers were a playoff team in 19 they said. Hyde said we would go to the Super Bowl. Then he struggles some after that initial success and it's excuse making that minimizes that or wants to keep running him out there while it's being prejudiced against Kap and Dante. Sorry, that's crap.
As far as "excuses" for Jimmy goes, in part it isn't because the criticisms and attacks are for the player as a whole and taken in the scope of what he does well and what might be a weak point. It's microanalyzing every bad throw and everything that he maybe doesn't do as well and saying we should probably replace him ASAP.
That subtle racist crap.... well I haven't walked in anyone's shoes and I'll try to leave it alone. But I think some people always need something convenient to blame or use an excuse so they don't actually have to be a bit more objective or willing to look at other truths themselves.
Well good morning to you too my friend.
I do think the issue with Kap was not direct racism, but a certain type of bias. Whether it had to do with race or the type of bias Kyle Shanahan has against QBs that can run, I don't know. I just never understood the nit picking and hate for a guy that took us to the NFC championship twice, with one near SB win. Too bad the Hawks had a HISTORICALLY good defense at the time and we had Michael Crabtree. But I digress.
Too me any starting quality QB could do what Jimmy is doing. On the other hand, very few QBs could have ran the team like Kap did for a couple of seasons. The comparison as to what they meant to their teams success is laughable to me.
Anyway, Pettis is a goof. He belongs in the NFL, but management doesn't like or respect him. Time to move on. I don't think the hate for Pettis is based on race, just blind allegiance to the organization. It's the same guys who defended the Tomsula hiring years ago.
If it wasn't meant to be race based than my apologies.
That said, the point still stands for me. I'm not going to speak for everyone but the ship sailed on Kap as a 49er. Part of it was the kneeling which I now do believe made a number of teams reluctant to sign him. But I don't think he's really wanted to play anyway. He's enjoying whatever he's doing now. But his play for whatever the reason(s) one wants to name, progressively worsened.
Pettis, no I still suspect it's more than management doesn't "like or respect him". We can't read his mind but when it comes across that he's just not very, well, tough minded in the opinion of, seemingly almost
everyone, than that's probably something that Dante needs to find a way to improve within and for himself. Maybe they don't like him that much anymore. But it isn't a talent issue necessarily. It's a mindset/confidence/want to issue. Much like people think it probably is for Witherspoon, who basically lost his job to Moseley.
When a player, or a person, meets adversity they can beat it or they can let it beat them. Pettis has let it beat him. At least here in San Francisco.
.....if we had a raise fist emoji I would raise it.
