Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City Swifties Thread | Page 240

dj43 · 2018-01-31T09:59:32-08:00

There is a long history of ex-49ers going to Kansas City and continuing their interest as a second team. With Alex Smith now in Washington, assuming he signs the contract come March, let's put KC comments here. I'll start by saying KC struck a huge blow for improving their team with the Smith trade: The key to the deal was Kendall Fuller. He fills the biggest need KC had: CB. By the end of this past season, Reid had a choice of ex-49er Kenneth Acker or a washed-up Darrelle Revis at corner. Both were responsible for plays that led to losses. This is brilliant for KC. A secondary weakness becomes a strength, they get out of salary cap hell, and they get a 3rd round draft pick this year. Arizona had no way to match this deal in value to KC. A three-way win for KC. Of course the key will be whether or not Patrick Mahomes can play well on a consistent basis. With only one league game behind him, he will have a heavy load on his shoulders starting the new season.

Mar 23, 2022 at 1:00 PM

#3586

DrEll
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I don't get what's so funny ? They won their SB with a loaded roster. Congrats to them.

we've f**ked up twice with a loaded roster….with nothing to show for it.

Mar 23, 2022 at 2:25 PM

#3587

glorydayz
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
There should be another thread with a poll:

Would you pay Mahomes HALF A BILLION like the Chiefs did?

Yes
No

Yes, he is a complete QB.

You look at the contracts of Watson & Mahomes compared to Jimmy G and Darnold and it just seems right to me.

Mar 23, 2022 at 7:55 PM

#3588

GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
There should be another thread with a poll:

Would you pay Mahomes HALF A BILLION like the Chiefs did?

Yes
No

Why wouldn't u? It's a 10 year contract. 45 mil a year is gonna be a steal in a couple years.

Mar 24, 2022 at 7:54 AM

#3589

Joecool
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I'm glad Mahomes no longer has the best weapons in the league. Dude ruined the fundamentals of the position.

Mar 24, 2022 at 8:26 AM

#3590

TonyStarks
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Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm glad Mahomes no longer has the best weapons in the league. Dude ruined the fundamentals of the position.

IMO you can't win with a GOAT qb nowadays unless they take a paycut. Half a billion for one guy is a mistake IMHO.

Chiefs have no defense now, no running game, meh oline, and now , a mid tier WR core.
Kelce is still great but getting older. Merhomes was throwing ducks for a couple of games and fans were in panic mode all mid season last year.

That division just got a TINY (

) bit better as well with Broncos now having a decent qb .

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:44 AM

#3591

SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm glad Mahomes no longer has the best weapons in the league. Dude ruined the fundamentals of the position.

IMO you can't win with a GOAT qb nowadays unless they take a paycut. Half a billion for one guy is a mistake IMHO.

Chiefs have no defense now, no running game, meh oline, and now , a mid tier WR core.
Kelce is still great but getting older. Merhomes was throwing ducks for a couple of games and fans were in panic mode all mid season last year.

That division just got a TINY ( ) bit better as well with Broncos now having a decent qb .

Great they won't win as much. I'm looking forward to seeing that.

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:48 AM

#3592

TonyStarks
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Originally posted by DrEll:
I don't get what's so funny ? They won their SB with a loaded roster. Congrats to them.

we've f**ked up twice with a loaded roster….with nothing to show for it.

All the niners had to do was cover Tyreek Hill for six minutes.

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:51 AM

#3593

SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I don't get what's so funny ? They won their SB with a loaded roster. Congrats to them.

we've f**ked up twice with a loaded roster….with nothing to show for it.

All the niners had to do was cover Tyreek Hill for six minutes.

That's true. That's why the blame Jimmy G thing is way over blown. You can't win this? The defense should be able to win this. Especially a good one.

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:51 AM

#3594

49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
There should be another thread with a poll:

Would you pay Mahomes HALF A BILLION like the Chiefs did?

Yes
No

Would I pay market value cost for a FQB to be a contender his entire career vs going back to being a QB less club... yes, yes I would.

Keep in mind Mahomes was around $40-45 mil annual and we are already seeing Watson around $54m annual. Mahomes deal look like such a bargain at this point I recently heard it on radio that they may have to tear the deal up in a couple years and redo it cuz guess what it's too cheap.

[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Mar 24, 2022 at 9:51 AM ]

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:52 AM

#3595

49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I don't get what's so funny ? They won their SB with a loaded roster. Congrats to them.

we've f**ked up twice with a loaded roster….with nothing to show for it.

All the niners had to do was cover Tyreek Hill for six minutes.

That's true. That's why the blame Jimmy G thing is way over blown. You can't win this? The defense should be able to win this. Especially a good one.

Image ought to come with a trigger warning

Mar 24, 2022 at 9:54 AM

#3596

SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I don't get what's so funny ? They won their SB with a loaded roster. Congrats to them.

we've f**ked up twice with a loaded roster….with nothing to show for it.

All the niners had to do was cover Tyreek Hill for six minutes.

That's true. That's why the blame Jimmy G thing is way over blown. You can't win this? The defense should be able to win this. Especially a good one.

Image ought to come with a trigger warning

You should be able to win 95% of games like that. With a good defense closing out the game.

Mar 24, 2022 at 10:10 AM

#3597

jcs
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm glad Mahomes no longer has the best weapons in the league. Dude ruined the fundamentals of the position.

IMO you can't win with a GOAT qb nowadays unless they take a paycut. Half a billion for one guy is a mistake IMHO.

Chiefs have no defense now, no running game, meh oline, and now , a mid tier WR core.
Kelce is still great but getting older. Merhomes was throwing ducks for a couple of games and fans were in panic mode all mid season last year.

That division just got a TINY ( ) bit better as well with Broncos now having a decent qb .

It's an insane deal though that because of its length that can be fudged on the books and cap every year, just look what they did last season in the restructure the pulled off as an example. They found massive loopholes in the leagues cap rules signing him that long.

[ Edited by jcs on Mar 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM ]

May 13, 2022 at 7:58 AM

#3598

YACBros85
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The Chiefs have an insanely tough schedule through the first 9 weeks. Opponents combined win % last season 0.625

[ Edited by YACBros85 on May 13, 2022 at 8:06 AM ]

May 13, 2022 at 10:24 AM

#3599

GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by Joecool:
I'm glad Mahomes no longer has the best weapons in the league. Dude ruined the fundamentals of the position.

IMO you can't win with a GOAT qb nowadays unless they take a paycut. Half a billion for one guy is a mistake IMHO.

Chiefs have no defense now, no running game, meh oline, and now , a mid tier WR core.
Kelce is still great but getting older. Merhomes was throwing ducks for a couple of games and fans were in panic mode all mid season last year.

That division just got a TINY ( ) bit better as well with Broncos now having a decent qb .

It's an insane deal though that because of its length that can be fudged on the books and cap every year, just look what they did last season in the restructure the pulled off as an example. They found massive loopholes in the leagues cap rules signing him that long.

This.

But I wouldn't say they "found" this. They just had the balls to pull of a signing like this. To commit that long to a player in the NFL is unheard of. Teams are just too scared of injuries happening, or whatever else during the length of such a long term contract. If teams could know exactly that a player is gonna be good and stay relatively healthy for 10 years, everyone would give out those type of contracts.

May 14, 2022 at 7:14 AM

#3600

JTB1974
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Chiefs got to be one of the luckiest teams when it comes to draft boards falling their way. Last year they were able to get the best center in the draft at the very end of RD 2 because other teams decided to pass on him, including us. This year due to the Pats being idiots they were able to get both of their players in RD 1. And then they had Skyye moore fall to them because Pats thought Thornton was better.