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Mar 28, 2023 at 12:09 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm fully aware of advanced stats in baseball. But to call batting average "overrated" and say that it doesn't correlate to how good a hitter is idiocy.

It doesn't correlate to the true value of a hitter. A .320 hitter with a .350 on base is less valuable then a 280 hitter with a 380 on base.

You need the ancillary contextual stats to put the numbers in proper perspective. Same with qb rating as golden explained very well earlier in the thread.

Larry Walker hit .350 in 2001. Barry Bonds hit .328.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Mar 28, 2023 at 12:12 AM ]
Mar 28, 2023 at 10:26 AM
If you continually are hitting targets throughout a season and have a high completion percentage that means day in and day out you are giving receivers a chance to catch the ball. Now one or two games means nothing but a full season indicates accuracy.
Mar 28, 2023 at 10:39 AM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm fully aware of advanced stats in baseball. But to call batting average "overrated" and say that it doesn't correlate to how good a hitter is idiocy.

It doesn't correlate to the true value of a hitter. A .320 hitter with a .350 on base is less valuable then a 280 hitter with a 380 on base.

You need the ancillary contextual stats to put the numbers in proper perspective. Same with qb rating as golden explained very well earlier in the thread.

Larry Walker hit .350 in 2001. Barry Bonds hit .328.

You don't need to explain BA to Furlow

remember, he bats .1000

Furlow
Mar 28, 2023 at 1:06 PM
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Jimmy look good in silver and black

Hell yeah
Mar 28, 2023 at 9:52 PM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

And no I totally am still skeptical you aren't just mocking Trey and waiting with baited breath to scream how terrible he is and "I told you so."

Lol that's weird that you fabricated something so stupid lol. Again I'm not like you. You're self projecting bro. I like Trey. I like Brock. I think Brock will still be rehabbing and Trey is going to get his shot to take the job. Regardless, unlike you, I just want to win. No matter if it's Trey, Brock, or even your most hated player Jimmy. I don't care and I will root for whoever unlike you rooting against Jimmy.

I find it pretty hypocritical that you talk about others "screaming" when we had to listen to you scream for years straight (self projection) I have supported Jimmy, Trey, and I even spent a ton of money to watch Brock beat Dallas. The only person screaming is you 5. Constantly screaming...

There's no way your screen name isn't mockery. Either mocking Trey or mocking a particular dialect of English.

good observation
Mar 28, 2023 at 9:58 PM
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Derek Carr career passer rating - 91.8
Jimmy G career passer rating - 99.6

A much better comparison then the other.

That being said a stat that has Kirk Cousins above Tom Brady all time doesn't hold much weight for me.

Different eras. But you knew that.
i guess ratings have an expiration date now

Lol wut. No, they don't "expire." But it's well known that QB's today play with rules that favor QB's. So the passer ratings in today's era are much higher than previous eras. Brady played a lot of years under different rules.

Can't believe this has to be stated.

What I can't believe is you acknowledge different eras but don't seem to be aware of the fact that passer rating doesn't distinguish between a two yard tunnel screen that goes 90 yards or a 90 yard bomb that traveled sixty yards through the air and was thrown between two defenders. I mean we all know why: Passer rating favors QBs who throw the ball short (because it effectively counts completion percentage twice, since it includes both comp% as well as ypa—neither of which are strictly due to the QB, or even mostly some of the time), and it favors QBs with YAC monsters.

Mar 28, 2023 at 10:53 PM
Mar 29, 2023 at 6:05 AM
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
[ Edited by NCommand on Mar 29, 2023 at 6:06 AM ]
Mar 29, 2023 at 7:35 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
All HC who are OC control the offense. no coach just lets the QB do whatever he wants
Mar 29, 2023 at 7:50 AM
Originally posted by picklejuice:

my prediction he will also be dressing more in black, including the black jacket black dress shirt combo
Mar 29, 2023 at 7:57 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
All HC who are OC control the offense. no coach just lets the QB do whatever he wants

The QBs stopped calling their own plays back in the 70s. Terry Bradshaw might have been the last. Of course they still call audibles but hey don't control the offense like they used to.
Mar 29, 2023 at 8:07 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
All HC who are OC control the offense. no coach just lets the QB do whatever he wants

The QBs stopped calling their own plays back in the 70s. Terry Bradshaw might have been the last. Of course they still call audibles but hey don't control the offense like they used to.

Brady, Manning, D.Brees, Rodgers, Burrow all these guys have the freedom to audible. Jimmy did not here under Kyle was well known....we also all know M.Ryan didn't either when he ripped into Kyle after the embarrassing SB loss they shared.
[ Edited by jcs on Mar 29, 2023 at 8:08 AM ]
Mar 29, 2023 at 8:13 AM
Originally posted by jcs:
Brady, Manning, D.Brees, Rodgers, Burrow all these guys have the freedom to audible. Jimmy did not here under Kyle was well known....we also all know M.Ryan didn't either when he ripped into Kyle after the embarrassing SB loss they shared.

Still referencing the OC of a team in a SB loss is humorous lol
Mar 29, 2023 at 8:19 AM
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
All HC who are OC control the offense. no coach just lets the QB do whatever he wants

The QBs stopped calling their own plays back in the 70s. Terry Bradshaw might have been the last. Of course they still call audibles but hey don't control the offense like they used to.

Brady, Manning, D.Brees, Rodgers, Burrow all these guys have the freedom to audible. Jimmy did not here under Kyle was well known....we also all know M.Ryan didn't either when he ripped into Kyle after the embarrassing SB loss they shared.
Stop the BS. Every system has two plays called on every snap.There were times where jimmy was making the wrong audibles.

but this is not about audibles
Mar 29, 2023 at 9:20 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

This has been my exact thought all along. Kyle runs this b***h. Always has. Fortunately he runs it pretty well.

"One thing that was interesting about talking to Jimmy is how excited he is to have control back," Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer told KRLV-FM in Las Vegas on Monday. "The quarterback controls everything (in the offense of Raiders HC Josh McDaniels)."

Now the question will be if giving Jimmy back all the control is a good or bad thing. But it does confirm what we've speculated all along. This should probably be placed in the Kyle thread too.
All HC who are OC control the offense. no coach just lets the QB do whatever he wants

The QBs stopped calling their own plays back in the 70s. Terry Bradshaw might have been the last. Of course they still call audibles but hey don't control the offense like they used to.

Brady, Manning, D.Brees, Rodgers, Burrow all these guys have the freedom to audible. Jimmy did not here under Kyle was well known....we also all know M.Ryan didn't either when he ripped into Kyle after the embarrassing SB loss they shared.
Stop the BS. Every system has two plays called on every snap.There were times where jimmy was making the wrong audibles.

but this is not about audibles

Lol
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