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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Curlin:
OK, He's not Bryant Young or Stubblefield. Just let him play and see what he can do. Lucky to have some depth on that D-line finally.

At this point, we are hoping for a semi-productive backup. Being a potential HOF and former and DPOY is pretty unrealistic now.

Yes. But the cap hit is about to far, far exceed that production. Going to need to address it.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Curlin:
OK, He's not Bryant Young or Stubblefield. Just let him play and see what he can do. Lucky to have some depth on that D-line finally.

At this point, we are hoping for a semi-productive backup. Being a potential HOF and former and DPOY is pretty unrealistic now.

Yes. But the cap hit is about to far, far exceed that production. Going to need to address it.

Preaching to the choir.
Real conversation :

Biggest Niner bust of all time ?
Real conversation: How are the coaches supposed to know whether or not Thomas can play inside when they've never tried it?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Real conversation :

Biggest Niner bust of all time ?

Depends on your criteria. He wasn't the worst player of a first-round pick we have had by any means. But in terms of how high he was drafted vs impact. I would say it is not certain but likely.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Real conversation :

Biggest Niner bust of all time ?

Possibly. A Reggie McGrew that went 3rd overall. At a minimum, Alex Smith and JJ Stokes carved out a role.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Real conversation: How are the coaches supposed to know whether or not Thomas can play inside when they've never tried it?

Didn't realize you've been there at every training camp/OTA/practice. How's Verrett looking?

This dude is definitely related to ST. No normal fan would be defending such an underperformer unless they knew the dude personally.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Real conversation :

Biggest Niner bust of all time ?

Depends on your criteria. He wasn't the worst player of a first-round pick we have had by any means. But in terms of how high he was drafted vs impact. I would say it is not certain but likely.

Good question

Biggest 49ers draft disappointment of all time ?
Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Real conversation :

Biggest Niner bust of all time ?

Possibly. A Reggie McGrew that went 3rd overall. At a minimum, Alex Smith and JJ Stokes carved out a role.

Reggie McGrew is a brutal comparison ......
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Real conversation: How are the coaches supposed to know whether or not Thomas can play inside when they've never tried it?

Didn't realize you've been there at every training camp/OTA/practice. How's Verrett looking?

This dude is definitely related to ST. No normal fan would be defending such an underperformer unless they knew the dude personally.

Once again, you can not tell a thing from "training camp"/"OTA"/"practice." If you could, Kurt Warner would have started over Tony Banks and Steve Bono, Tom Brady would have started over Drew Bledsoe, Frank Gore would have started over Kevan Barlow, Corey Dillon would have started over Ki-Jana Carter, and Joe Montana would have started over Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Real conversation: How are the coaches supposed to know whether or not Thomas can play inside when they've never tried it?

Didn't realize you've been there at every training camp/OTA/practice. How's Verrett looking?

This dude is definitely related to ST. No normal fan would be defending such an underperformer unless they knew the dude personally.

Once again, you can not tell a thing from "training camp"/"OTA"/"practice." If you could, Kurt Warner would have started over Tony Banks and Steve Bono, Tom Brady would have started over Drew Bledsoe, Frank Gore would have started over Kevan Barlow, Corey Dillon would have started over Ki-Jana Carter, and Joe Montana would have started over Steve DeBerg.
Once again, unless you come out and tell us, you are not apart of the team so you can't say definitively what does or does not happen in practice to make that statement.
[ Edited by Dsoto87 on Sep 19, 2019 at 9:31 PM ]
This is what happens when you play a DT at DE:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElliLu00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RussDa00.htm
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Real conversation: How are the coaches supposed to know whether or not Thomas can play inside when they've never tried it?

Didn't realize you've been there at every training camp/OTA/practice. How's Verrett looking?

This dude is definitely related to ST. No normal fan would be defending such an underperformer unless they knew the dude personally.

Once again, you can not tell a thing from "training camp"/"OTA"/"practice." If you could, Kurt Warner would have started over Tony Banks and Steve Bono, Tom Brady would have started over Drew Bledsoe, Frank Gore would have started over Kevan Barlow, Corey Dillon would have started over Ki-Jana Carter, and Joe Montana would have started over Steve DeBerg.
Once again, unless you come out and tell us, you are not apart of the team so you can't say definitively what does or does not happen.

We can literally see in the games whether or not they play him inside. They don't.

This is not even debatable: Coaches can not determine how good a player is at a given position without seeing him in an actual game. All of the examples I provided prove this beyond any shadow of a doubt.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
maybe the lightbulb will finally click for Solomon in Year 5 like it did for Arik Armstead.

I don't think it has anything to do with a lightbulb. It's not like he's a 300 lb speedster that is mentally taking plays off. He's a tweener. Sadly he doesn't have enough foot speed or technique to be an outside rusher and he's too small to be an every down interior lineman. At best he'll be a decent rotational backup in this league. Nothing more...nothing less.

Pettis is a better example of your lightbulb theory. He's a kid that has all the skills. He needs to decide if he has the mental fortitude and strength to succeed.

"Too small to be an every down interior lineman."

If it's about size, (hint: It's not), why not just have him hit the buffet and put on 30 pounds of fat? Why not get go out and sign sumo wrestlers to play DT?

The reason Thomas isn't 300 pounds is there isn't an ounce of fat on him. He's pure muscle. That's the difference between he and someone like Dana Stubblefield.

And the difference between he and Buckner/Armstead is he's much shorter. He has a higher BMI than either of them. Nobody used to think having power forward height was an asset on the interior of a line, yet here we are...

You got a dog in this fight?
I don't get it if you don't....

You've stated your opinion over and over and over and over, and it doesn't change the fact that it's an OPINION.

He hasn't done s**t to warrant his #3 pick.
Won't be the 1st and won't be the last.
Is it on him, or the coaching or some of both.
No one knows the answer to that especially you.


So what response are you looking for here?
He's awesome?
He got f**ked over by coaching playing him in the wrong position?
I mean, what's your goal repeating the same s**t for pages upon pages? You join 10 DAYS ago just to pound the table for him? Why?
LOL
[ Edited by Jeepzilla on Sep 19, 2019 at 9:45 PM ]
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
maybe the lightbulb will finally click for Solomon in Year 5 like it did for Arik Armstead.

I don't think it has anything to do with a lightbulb. It's not like he's a 300 lb speedster that is mentally taking plays off. He's a tweener. Sadly he doesn't have enough foot speed or technique to be an outside rusher and he's too small to be an every down interior lineman. At best he'll be a decent rotational backup in this league. Nothing more...nothing less.

Pettis is a better example of your lightbulb theory. He's a kid that has all the skills. He needs to decide if he has the mental fortitude and strength to succeed.

"Too small to be an every down interior lineman."

If it's about size, (hint: It's not), why not just have him hit the buffet and put on 30 pounds of fat? Why not get go out and sign sumo wrestlers to play DT?

The reason Thomas isn't 300 pounds is there isn't an ounce of fat on him. He's pure muscle. That's the difference between he and someone like Dana Stubblefield.

And the difference between he and Buckner/Armstead is he's much shorter. He has a higher BMI than either of them. Nobody used to think having power forward height was an asset on the interior of a line, yet here we are...

You got a dog in this fight?
I don't get it if you don't....

You've stated your opinion over and over and over and over, and it doesn't change the fact that it's an OPINION.

He hasn't done s**t to warrant his #3 pick.
Won't be the 1st and won't be the last.
Is it on him, or the coaching or some of both.
No one knows the answer to that especially you.


So what response are you looking for here?
He's awesome?
He got f**ked over by coaching playing him in the wrong position?
I mean, what's your goal repeating the same s**t for pages upon pages? You join 10 DAYS ago just to pound the table for him? Why?
LOL


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