SUPER BOWL LI: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS vs ATLANTA FALCONS | Page 126

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:07 AM

crabman82
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Originally posted by sacleads:
Originally posted by JeuSF49:
So if he called a run, with no effect, the FG missed, everyone would complain that it was to conervative.

Yep. Remember when we ran the ball against the Giants in the NFC championship game many, many moons ago? Yeah, the Roger Craig fumble? Unfortunately, anything can happen.

Honestly, when halftime approached and the score was similar to when they played against the 49ers a few years ago, I had this funny feeling, history was going to repeat itself once again.

Nothing is ever 100%. The theory is tho if u run it then kick a fg, sure a fumble or missed fg can happen, but it's less likely of an outcome than passing it and getting sacked to the point where that fg is in the 50/50 range.

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:08 AM

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JimA49ers
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Originally posted by 16to87:

Originally posted by theninermaniac:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Re-watched the game last night and noticed the two point conversion by the Pats should've been a offensive PI. Pats receivers were blocking right after the ball was hiked.

Just my 2 cents.

that's what I thought the flag was gonna be. s**t is fixed.

Did you notice the Ryan fumble? Arm and ball went forward. Refs didn't bother to even review it.

NFL is rigged.
Old news

What, no Brady Rule? Oh wait, that only applies for Tom.

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:12 AM

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JimA49ers
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Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
check the tape. he moved forward at the exact time the center started to snap the ball.

He was offsides.

He was offsides, but not as bad as the Ravens vs 49ers in the bowl. As my uncle says "The guy was in the backfield shaking Kaps hand before the ball was snapped" lol.

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:22 AM

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Rocket4989
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
check the tape. he moved forward at the exact time the center started to snap the ball.

What am I looking at here?

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM

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Cjez
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if you go to the replay, Freeney doesn't move forward until the ball starts moving. Unless they called neutral zone, it shouldn't have been a flag.

Feb 6, 2017 at 8:25 AM

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Cjez
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dude just got a perfect jump on the ball.

Feb 6, 2017 at 9:04 AM

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tjd808185
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
dude just got a perfect jump on the ball.

Even if you want to go by that they scored, they were screwed out of a blocked extra point earlier in the game. That play was as borderline as it comes.

[ Edited by tjd808185 on Feb 6, 2017 at 9:12 AM ]

Feb 6, 2017 at 10:11 AM

#1883

Sims19849ers
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
check the tape. he moved forward at the exact time the center started to snap the ball.

He was offsides.

Clearly

Feb 6, 2017 at 10:43 AM

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Kolohe
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Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
check the tape. he moved forward at the exact time the center started to snap the ball.

He was offsides.

Clearly

I gotta agree with Chaz it was a good jump on the ball. But I could see how the refs would get that wrong, it was almost simultaneous.

Feb 6, 2017 at 10:53 AM

#1885

ComeOnDeberg
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Lack of leadership by Matt Ryan also a factor

Feb 6, 2017 at 11:00 AM

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crabman82
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BTW something I haven't seen talked about is Quinn losing the final timeout via challenge on the Edelman play. Falcons with the ball and about a minute left with a timeout is a huge difference compared to 50 something seconds and no timeouts.

Feb 6, 2017 at 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by crabman82:
BTW something I haven't seen talked about is Quinn losing the final timeout via challenge on the Edelman play. Falcons with the ball and about a minute left with a timeout is a huge difference compared to 50 something seconds and no timeouts.

The thing is...

About 40 things had to go perfectly RIGHT for the Patriots to win and perfectly WRONG for the Falcons to lose.

And those things ALL happened.

Feb 6, 2017 at 11:34 AM

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crabman82
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Originally posted by TyCore:
Originally posted by crabman82:
BTW something I haven't seen talked about is Quinn losing the final timeout via challenge on the Edelman play. Falcons with the ball and about a minute left with a timeout is a huge difference compared to 50 something seconds and no timeouts.

The thing is...

About 40 things had to go perfectly RIGHT for the Patriots to win and perfectly WRONG for the Falcons to lose.

And those things ALL happened.

Momentum had swung. U hope your d can hold but u gotta assume they gonna tie it and best position yourself to go for game winning fg. Losing the last timeout on a challenge he had zero chance to win was very foolish. I've seen many Matt Ryan games where he has 1 min and a timeout or two and gets them in fg range. Super unlikely it happens with 1 min and no timeouts. Limits yourself to how much of the field u can use.

Feb 6, 2017 at 11:42 AM

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Kolohe
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Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by crabman82:
BTW something I haven't seen talked about is Quinn losing the final timeout via challenge on the Edelman play. Falcons with the ball and about a minute left with a timeout is a huge difference compared to 50 something seconds and no timeouts.

The thing is...

About 40 things had to go perfectly RIGHT for the Patriots to win and perfectly WRONG for the Falcons to lose.

And those things ALL happened.

This, in a nutshell.

Feb 6, 2017 at 11:02 PM

#1890

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Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by TyCore:

Originally posted by crabman82:
BTW something I haven't seen talked about is Quinn losing the final timeout via challenge on the Edelman play. Falcons with the ball and about a minute left with a timeout is a huge difference compared to 50 something seconds and no timeouts.

The thing is...

About 40 things had to go perfectly RIGHT for the Patriots to win and perfectly WRONG for the Falcons to lose.

And those things ALL happened.

Momentum had swung. U hope your d can hold but u gotta assume they gonna tie it and best position yourself to go for game winning fg. Losing the last timeout on a challenge he had zero chance to win was very foolish. I've seen many Matt Ryan games where he has 1 min and a timeout or two and gets them in fg range. Super unlikely it happens with 1 min and no timeouts. Limits yourself to how much of the field u can use.

during that sequence, worse throw was that throw to the TE in the flats which just wasted time. then they spiked it.