Originally posted by aTx49er:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by aTx49er:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Its amazing to me that so many of you are making excuses for this behavior. Maybe is because MANY of you have used the same word and to condemn him and his action would be condemning yourselves.
LOL. Maybe some of us just arent so sensitive and dont get riled up over a word some drunken idiot said,especially when it has become a quite common term used by all races, and not purely used as a reference to black people. Maybe some of us think logically and realize that simply because this guy used the term at a concert while intoxicated, more than likely in referance to a group of people that were likely not even black, does not necissarily make him a raging racist. He certainly may be, but he also may just be a young idiot that made a mistake he genuinely regrets. Its amusing to me that if this same guy was driving his car down the street bumping music where the term is used every other word, it would be no big deal, but the second he says the term himself he is a racist.
As i mentioned before, culture is often awkward, especially with youth, and its easy to overreact to something that may have a historical reference as a racial slur, but no longer carries that historical reference with modern culture of young people. When you are looking at the term strictly with historical context, but ignore the modern cultural context of the term, it can be offensive, but that does not mean that the term was in fact used in an offensive way when it comes to the cultural context.
Another thing that is amusing to me is when celebrities within the hip hop and rap community act offended when someone outside of the black community use the term, all the while they got rich off of all races listening to and buying their music and blasting said music in their parents basement.
Its simply an awkward term. I personally think it is one of the most ridiculous cultural phenomenons of the young generation in this country, but its their generation and their rules.
Wrong. His comment was directed at BLACK security guards. The words ni&&er and Ni&&a are different words with different meanings and they are NOT interchangeable.
Has it been confirmed that they were indeed black security guards? i had not seen that, if indeed that is true my apologies i had not heard that. But as far as the second thing, they are indeed interchangeable with the young generation of this country. I know this for fact. Just because to YOU they are not interchangeable, does not make it so.
I work with middle school through college aged kids on a daily basis, of all races, cultures, and ethnic backgrounds both in my current state, and in my home state of CA. I am also a young adult, and grew up in CA. I have first hand experience in this matter.
Cooper said he was drinking when he directed the slur at an African-American security guard at the concert in June
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/08/01/eagles-wr-riley-cooper-apologizes-for-using-racial-slur/#ixzz2ancfnHfJ
I've lived on the East and West coast, the Midwest and now in Texas. I've heard people of all ages use both words on a daily basis. You ask any black person what's the difference between a ni&&er and a ni&&a and I guarantee you no one will say they mean the same thing. This is a fact. Oh and I'm black. I have first hand experience in this matter.
I stand corrected on who he was referencing. Thanks for the article.
As far as the other discussion, i dont care if your orange. I wont go back and forth with you, because its clear we disagree, and thats fine, but i know from personal experience that you are indeed incorrect. When it comes to pronunciation of the two terms in casual conversation in modern culture with youths in this country, they are indeed interchangeable. As i have stated many times in this thread, the word is no longer controlled by outdated racial stigmas. It has transcended that in modern culture. It is not something that is owned by blacks, in either pronunciation, and the same is true for whites, and it is not something that one can dictate terms of use or pronunciation on simply because of race. Just because you, or any number of people state that there is a difference, doesnt mean their indeed is one with all cultures or age groups.
Like i said, i think we was wrong personally and i believe the word is vulger and a ridiculous cultural phenomenon, but i dont make the rules, and what i think about it has no bearing on anything.