How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

I can't change it, but my overly optimistic 11-5 is looking like a lock for 8-8. Alex struggled against our 2nd and 3rd stringers, and had his WRs drop 3 catches right on the mark. It also looked like our 1st team could move the ball at will on KC's D. Ouch. I thot these guys just needed a new Qb and a great coach. Wrong! They need new talent, and desire to win. I saw neither.

Originally posted by InHarbsWeTrust:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

And there are people around here who still think he's a top flight QB. What a joke. Limited QBs do not win.

he had a free running player on his ass there was no time to look at baldwin, if he did Smith would have gotten rocked.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by aTx49er:

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:

Originally posted by LAFortyNinerfan:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

They are arguing about

~ Dropped passes
~ Poor blocking
~ QB mechanics

right now in Chiefs planet. Not kidding..... ........


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275378&page=8

That's funny on so many levels. But Alex isn't bad. They just have to understand what he is and what he isn't, just like we had to. But it's not our concern anymore.

Lol.

Remember if it weren't for Alex Smith alot of posters here would have absolutely nothing to talk about.

This.

He also gives us something to be thankful for.

1-2 for -3?

After watching that preseason game it's easy to see that Alex is not the problem. It's easy to say he is the problem especially if you hate the guy. Now let's look at the bigger picture. This was a good test to see how far along everyone on the team is, in this new offense.

A test to see how good the 2nd string HB is (a rookie at that) - He's good and I can see him stepping in and contributing but not at the level Charles will.
Has Baldwin progressed - A big NO, he's still dropping passes
Kelce - Looked like he had rookie jitters, he also dropped an easy one
Fasano - Runs really good routes and has a solid connection with Alex
Blitz pick ups - We had no answer for the free blitzers and I'm glad SF did this so much and it will help us out in the future
QB play - Had a lot to do with the players around him and also still learning how to handle certain situations (has a lot on his plate)
Back up QBs - There's a clear drop off from the starter but they are all also learning a new system with limited snaps

With all this said, it's definitely a work in progress and they can only learn and get better from here. I think we need to give Avery the 2nd WR spot and Baldwin needs to ride the bench until he learns how to catch the ball. Reid will find a way to get things right and I'm confident it will show in the following weeks.

Originally posted by kcfan11:
After watching that preseason game it's easy to see that Alex is not the problem. It's easy to say he is the problem especially if you hate the guy. Now let's look at the bigger picture. This was a good test to see how far along everyone on the team is, in this new offense.

Congratulations. You have officially allowed "alexcuses" to enter your vocabulary.

9-7

Originally posted by kcfan11:
After watching that preseason game it's easy to see that Alex is not the problem. It's easy to say he is the problem especially if you hate the guy. Now let's look at the bigger picture. This was a good test to see how far along everyone on the team is, in this new offense.

A test to see how good the 2nd string HB is (a rookie at that) - He's good and I can see him stepping in and contributing but not at the level Charles will.
Has Baldwin progressed - A big NO, he's still dropping passes
Kelce - Looked like he had rookie jitters, he also dropped an easy one
Fasano - Runs really good routes and has a solid connection with Alex
Blitz pick ups - We had no answer for the free blitzers and I'm glad SF did this so much and it will help us out in the future
QB play - Had a lot to do with the players around him and also still learning how to handle certain situations (has a lot on his plate)
Back up QBs - There's a clear drop off from the starter but they are all also learning a new system with limited snaps

With all this said, it's definitely a work in progress and they can only learn and get better from here. I think we need to give Avery the 2nd WR spot and Baldwin needs to ride the bench until he learns how to catch the ball. Reid will find a way to get things right and I'm confident it will show in the following weeks.

Just had a dejavu moment

Best of luck with this mess for the next 2-3 years

Originally posted by HudsonValley:

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Can we just dispense with all of this and cut right to it?

The people.. the same people that never thought Alex would be a 49er beyond 2007... 2008... 2009... 2010... the same people that believed he could never be a top 10 QB in passer rating or half as good as he is... for one or two years in a row...

these same people flat out don't like or respect Alex as a quarterback... for whatever reasons... because he's not a dynamic QB... because he's made them look foolish for the last however many years for being resilient... because they have grown to resent the fans of Alex.. whatever.. doesn't much matter. These same people will follow Alex around on the pretense of caring about which draft pick will belong to SF.

The obvious and clear reality is... Alex has burned them in some way or another... so even as Alex is no longer a part of the Niners... they will talk about him as often as they can in unrelated threads.. they will follow him to a Chiefs thread... likely follow him to a Chiefs forum.. and continue to dig at him and doubt him.. probably even after he retires from football... probably even after he's dead and buried. It is in the blood like a malingering toxin.

This is why anyone but Alex supporters are in this thread. If we can all just admit that much, then that really is the next step to purging the circulatory system.

edit: this may turn out to be a good quick source of TC and other KC info...

https://twitter.com/arrowheadpride

And what if Alex fails in KC, good sir ? Will you be the first in line (considering you've posted at least once or twice on almost every page of this thread) to admit that he is/was a mediocre quarterback, or should we be ready to hear (A) his coaches stink, (B) his receivers arent good enough, (C) he needs a running game, (D) oline sucks, (E) defense didnt come through OR we could go back to the classic throwbacks (F) he's only [blank] years old, (G) his hands are too small, (H) Nolan ruined his psyche when he played him with a bad shoulder, (I) shouldnt have started as a rookie just as Rodgers didnt, (J) field is in bad shape, (K) just needs time to adapt to the playbook, (L) playbook is too complicated - Reid needs to simplify it, (M) ball is too slippery in KC, (N) too windy for him to be accurate, (O) coaches are forcing him to be hesitant / conservative - not his fault.

I think Ive heard one or more of these from the so called "fanbase" during his tenure in San Francisco. Doesnt really matter to me whether he's great out there or a flop, but what I saw this past year was a 2nd year quarterback (who apparently lacked in practice) take our team to a Superbowl and almost win it, whilst going through teams like NE, NO, GB, and ATL. Clearly Kaep gave us an advantage in his 2nd year that Alex couldnt give us in his 8th.

Will be rooting for him, along with you

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275378&page=8

Wow, looks like one of our Alex Smith threads. People just raping him left and right, but the "faithful" still chiming in.

Originally posted by HudsonValley:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=275378&page=8

Wow, looks like one of our Alex Smith threads. People just raping him left and right, but the "faithful" still chiming in.

What would you think would happen if a Broncos fan went into that thread and agreed with everything that was said?

Originally posted by Amir:

Originally posted by kcfan11:
After watching that preseason game it's easy to see that Alex is not the problem. It's easy to say he is the problem especially if you hate the guy. Now let's look at the bigger picture. This was a good test to see how far along everyone on the team is, in this new offense.

Congratulations. You have officially allowed "alexcuses" to enter your vocabulary.

This

Alex would be a multiple SB MVP that is....if he had SB MVPs surrounding him

Was Dwayne Bowe active last night? I didn't see him mentioned at all

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Was Dwayne Bowe active last night? I didn't see him mentioned at all

he was busy negotiating. He wanted to switch Receptions with Blocks on his incentive bonus

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Was Dwayne Bowe active last night? I didn't see him mentioned at all

he was busy negotiating. He wanted to switch Receptions with Blocks on his incentive bonus

Originally posted by Joecool:

Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1.

Wrap it up. That's all you need to know.

Bump.

KC fan, Alex was on the most talented team in the league and still had issues and was very sporadic from game to game. Your guy Bowe is money wasted with Alex at QB. You guys need to spend that money on TEs with Alex at QB. Drives will stall and scores will be low because he will not try to make nifty throws because he can't. He will rarely make a good throw if he doesn't have perfect space and his legs underneath him. He will rarely adjust his aim at the last second.

He has a marginal arm and his ability is over rated. What he will provide you is a good brain that understands the playbook and how it works on paper. Veering from that to make plays is his weakness. He is a robotic player which is why he is great if everything works as designed.

One word
Limited.

Originally posted by Garcia:
he had a free running player on his ass there was no time to look at baldwin, if he did Smith would have gotten rocked.

I'd believe you if this wasn't common for Alex. He doesn't see the whole field.