How many games will the Chiefs win PYMWYMI

Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Is Hali and Houston still out?

Hali played for sure, but I think Houston is out.

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:

Ride'em cowboy...er...Chief! Was a good game for Alex but the defense let them down again. Hope they are healthy for the playoffs and meet Denver with all their pass rushers...no sacks? Again? Bah! Cooper is just so inexperienced...Manning can really embarrass young DBs. Enjoyed the game though...more than the 9ers game. Love that WCO and the 9ers are still running in mud on offense. But they were better...

Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Where are all the Marcus Cooper fan boys now?!

even after today he is playing better than any could expect for a 7th rd pick who played little cornerback in college--im still a cooper fanboy and i bet you balke would take him back in a second--he also had an int today

Originally posted by hofer36:

Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Where are all the Marcus Cooper fan boys now?!

even after today he is playing better than any could expect for a 7th rd pick who played little cornerback in college--im still a cooper fanboy and i bet you balke would take him back in a second--he also had an int today

I'd take him over Eric Wright right about now.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
3 losses in a row. What happened to their defense? 4th consecutive game they allowed 400+ yards. Today it was 535.

And 8.1 yards per play. Peyton could've easily put up 49 if not for the Chiefs' offense sustaining several long drives and winning time of possession by 4 minutes.

Terrible pass defense for the Chiefs was the story for the game. Just horrid.

From Fox Sports Sean Keeler

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As the late, great Wayne Woodrow Hayes once said, three things can happen when you throw the ball to Donnie Avery. And two of them are bad.

"It's important that when you're given the opportunity to catch it, you have to catch it," Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid said after his men dropped their third game in a row, as well as several passes along the way.

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Quarterback Alex Smith (293 yards passing, two scores one pick) went round for round, punch for punch, with Peyton Manning (403 yards, five scores, two picks), his more ballyhooed contemporary. The difference Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium wasn't 11 versus 18. Not really.

It was Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas versus Avery and Dwayne Bowe. It was eight catches for 174 yards and four scores (Decker) and three for 106 (Thomas) versus two for 17 (Avery) and three for 56 (Bowe). Special-teamer Junior Hemingway was arguably Smith's best, most reliable option, and that was a very, very bad sign. Not because of what Hemingway can or can't do -- he wound up snaring three balls for 42 yards and a score -- but because the people ahead of him on the depth chart dropped rock after rock. Literally.

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on their final drive of the night. A.J. Jenkins went high for a 26-yard grab on 3rd-and-14. Dexter McCluster went horizontal for 28 yards on 2nd-and-10. Bowe was clutch for 23 on 1st-and-10, powering the hosts all the way to the Denver 19.

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This one is going to be tough to move on from.

It wasn't for lack of want-to, lack of effort -- the Chiefs stepped into the octagon without arguably their best defender (outside linebacker Justin Houston) and kept Manning and his cohorts within shouting distance. Rookie cornerback Marcus Cooper continued to get all kinds of abused, but he hung in there, picking off one of RoboPeyton's wounded ducks and batting another one away.

The Andy Gang was swept by Denver in two meetings over a critical three-week stretch, but they weren't completely outclassed by them, either. If anything, we've learned that the gap between the Chiefs and Broncos might not be about the defense; or the coaches; or Manning vs. Smith, the men throwing the passes.

It's about the men catching them.

Sunday underscored a problem. A problem and a pattern. The Chiefs went into Week 13 ranked fifth in the NFL in percentage of passed dropped (5.9), according to SportingCharts.com, behind only New England (7.5), St. Louis (7.3), Detroit (7.1) and Cleveland (6.2).

The individual numbers aren't especially pretty either, with Jenkins (40 percent drop rate on five targets going into Sunday), McCluster (4.8 percent on 63), Avery (5.4 on 56), Anthony Fasano (12.0 on 25) Jamaal Charles (9.4 on 85) and Anthony Sherman (4.8 on 21) all botching more than 4 percent of the balls thrown their way.

The perception is that the Chiefs, for all their strengths, are still flawed at wideout, especially when compared to their playoff-chasing peers, especially when matched up against the NFL's elite. And the reality -- Sunday's reality, especially -- bears that out.

Alex Smith isn't the problem here, kids. He never was.





But drops matter. Ball security matters. Concentration matters. Being able to keep pace in a shootout -- it's taken 31 points in a game, on average, to beat a Peyton Manning team since 2008 -- matters.

"But (it's) 'Next play. Got to move on,'" Hemingway said. "You've got to have a short memory."





You can follow Sean Keeler on Twitter (@seankeeler) or email him at [email protected].

glad to see alex and the chiefs lose. 9-3. hope they lose 4 more in a row and give us a top 18 draft pick in the 2nd.

oh and



but but they beat a top 10 team in Dallas.

Originally posted by 11OnDaField1NMyHeart:
glad to see alex and the chiefs lose. 9-3. hope they lose 4 more in a row and give us a top 18 draft pick in the 2nd.

oh and



but but they beat a top 10 team in Dallas.

All playoff teams are seeded in the bottom 12 of the draft. The best we can get is 21st in the 2nd, and that's only if the Chiefs lose in the first round and have a worse record than the three other teams that lose in that round.

After they picked up Kyle Williams, they've gone 0-3

Let's hope this trend continues for an improved 49ers draft pick

Originally posted by vaden:

Originally posted by 11OnDaField1NMyHeart:

glad to see alex and the chiefs lose. 9-3. hope they lose 4 more in a row and give us a top 18 draft pick in the 2nd.

oh and



but but they beat a top 10 team in Dallas.

All playoff teams are seeded in the bottom 12 of the draft. The best we can get is 21st in the 2nd, and that's only if the Chiefs lose in the first round and have a worse record than the three other teams that lose in that round.

Well let's hope they lose in the first round then, right SF fans.

Originally posted by 11OnDaField1NMyHeart:
glad to see alex and the chiefs lose. 9-3. hope they lose 4 more in a row and give us a top 18 draft pick in the 2nd.

oh and



but but they beat a top 10 team in Dallas.

now that you got that out of your system you can go back under your bridge and let the big boys talk real football

Well they got the #5 seed in the bag now. I don't think their D is talented enough to do what Baltimore did and go thru NE and Denver back to back. If they draw Indy that should be a win though.

Originally posted by hofer36:


Alex Smith isn't the problem here, kids. He never was.

But drops matter. Ball security matters. Concentration matters. Being able to keep pace in a shootout -- it's taken 31 points in a game, on average, to beat a Peyton Manning team since 2008 -- matters. [email protected].

Good read. Certainly accurate for many points in these KC games. Yesterday was really the defense and receiver drops. Prior to that, much went to an OL that couldn't block. They seem to have improved that, now that Stephenson and Schwartz are getting snaps... and that they are opening up the offense.

I still don't have a big problem with Bowe... aside from his inappropriate contract taking away from what KC can do in the offseason. He can be lazy and drop balls at times... but he is overall a good target. Avery is so hit or miss... can make some big catches and then drop so many easy ones.. he really is a # 3 receiver playing # 2.

Been saying it a while... they are a worthy playoff team, but likely don't have the "muscle" yet to make more than a brief appearance. That could change in the next month, but it's asking for a lot from a team that's already exceeded a lot. If they can add a 1st rd WR like Beckham Jr. to start opposite of Bowe and push Avery/others to # 3/ # 4 ? If they can solidify their FS spot with an upgrade? The Chiefs can gel more in the next offseason and go all the way in 2014. I sure hope that they do, if WE can not.

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:

Originally posted by hofer36:


Alex Smith isn't the problem here, kids. He never was.

But drops matter. Ball security matters. Concentration matters. Being able to keep pace in a shootout -- it's taken 31 points in a game, on average, to beat a Peyton Manning team since 2008 -- matters. [email protected].

Good read. Certainly accurate for many points in these KC games. Yesterday was really the defense and receiver drops. Prior to that, much went to an OL that couldn't block. They seem to have improved that, now that Stephenson and Schwartz are getting snaps... and that they are opening up the offense.

I still don't have a big problem with Bowe... aside from his inappropriate contract taking away from what KC can do in the offseason. He can be lazy and drop balls at times... but he is overall a good target. Avery is so hit or miss... can make some big catches and then drop so many easy ones.. he really is a # 3 receiver playing # 2.

Been saying it a while... they are a worthy playoff team, but likely don't have the "muscle" yet to make more than a brief appearance. That could change in the next month, but it's asking for a lot from a team that's already exceeded a lot. If they can add a 1st rd WR like Beckham Jr. to start opposite of Bowe and push Avery/others to # 3/ # 4 ? If they can solidify their FS spot with an upgrade? The Chiefs can gel more in the next offseason and go all the way in 2014. I sure hope that they do, if WE can not.

Good posts to both of you! And top of the morning! Who would have guessed that the defense would let the offense down...other than we realists? Over 27 points average per game and they lose all three?