Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by mkmasn:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
I don't think they're a typical 9-0 team. Do you? I mean most 9-0 teams would be mentioned in the same breath as a Superbowl contender. I don't think the Chiefs are a Superbowl contender.
Take a look at the SOS of the Miami Dolphins in 72. It is amazing....
Originally posted by AmpLee:
lol, yes you're right, I lost track. But that's largely because I found the link irrelevant. We played good teams in 2011. Remember when we beat the Saints in the playoffs, and lost to the Ravens on the road, or lost to the Giants in the NFCCG?
The season isn't over for them, but the one good team they played, they beat. They have beaten a lot of crappy teams and some average teams. Hard to make those comparisons at this point..but what I can say is the SOS in 2011 for the niners isn't much different than what the Chiefs are playing now. So I don't know how you think it is irrelevant.
I don't need to check out the '72 Dolphins SOS. They played and beat good teams in the playoffs. As did the '11 Niners. The Chiefs have yet to beat, let alone play a good team. Please point out the one team you are referring to because I only see average and below average teams (lol if referring to Cowboys). Bottom line is they squeaked out a win against a really bad team that outplayed them today. Color me unconvinced.
How are you going to sit there and make the argument that '72 Miami beat good teams in the playoffs and somehow use that to negate a 9-0 team, halfway through the season, before the playoffs happen?
I just remembered why I don't frequent this board too often anymore. Sense is not all that common.
The simple fact of the matter is "good teams" and "bad teams" make no difference. The only thing that matters is THAT SUNDAY. The Jets just beat the Saints. The Browns just beat the Ravens.Tampa took Seattle to OT.
You either win on Sunday or you don't. Strength of schedule doesn't matter, the record of the teams you play against don't matter, this stupid argument doesn't matter. The Chiefs are a contender. FACT.
Maybe if you didn't misrepresent my argument, it would make better sense. I'm not using the '72 Dolphins to compare against the Chiefs. Another poster brought up that comparison regarding strength of schedule. I argued that while the Dolphins may have had a similar SOS, we could look back and see that they beat all their playoff competition. Again, and I don't know why this is so difficult to understand, the quality of the opponent is a huge factor in why KC is 9-0. And I'll state my argument again; it is because of the quality of their opponent has been so weak that has allowed a good team in the Chiefs to go undefeated through the first 9 weeks. And I give them a huge chunk of credit for winning games they should win. That being said, until they face off against a good to elite team, we cannot simply say they are contenders. They have beat a bunch of crappy teams, and not very convincingly in some instances. It is my belief they are overrated and not an elite team and the coming weeks will prove that to be true.
And the quality of opponent certainly matters. Yes, this is the NFL, but let's not pretend that playing VS the Bills and playing VS the Broncos are similar. Again, I think KC is a good team and they are winning the games they should, which is not an easy accomplishment. Let's see what happens when they face off against a powerhouse.
Nobody is misrepresenting your argument.
I argued that while the Dolphins may have had a similar SOS, we could look back and see that they beat all their playoff competition.
You are directly comparing the 2013 KC Chiefs to the '72 Dolphins, "similar SOS," but they beat all their playoff competition. Then you say that the 9-0 Chiefs aren't a superbowl contender, even with the best record in the league.
Quality of opponent makes absolutely zero difference. Injuries, weather, game time, referees, coaching, etc ALL factor in more heavily than quality of opponent. As I already said, if the Steelers can beat the Jets and the Jets can beat the Saints, and the Vikings can beat the Steelers, The Chargers and the Dolphins can beat the Colts, the Colts can beat the Broncos, then please explain to me how SOS matters whatsoever.
Name all the teams you would consider "elite," then spout off their record.
The only elite team in the NFL right now is the KC Chiefs.
Game. Set. Match.