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The TD to Moore, I'm not so sure that was all on Cooper. He protected the outside and the receiver went inside for the slant. There should be a safety there within the proximity of the catch to make the tackle but --no show.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Even with that, Chiefs could have a collapse. I want them to hurry up and win 8 because I have a bad feeling Reid is getting figured out. Teams are focusing on the underneath routes and forcing deep throws.
Chiefs passing game has gotten worse with each game.
With HOU, CLE, BUF, DEN, WAS in the next 5 weeks, and the way their passing game is struggling, they may be lucky to get 1 or 2 wins out of that.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Even with that, Chiefs could have a collapse. I want them to hurry up and win 8 because I have a bad feeling Reid is getting figured out. Teams are focusing on the underneath routes and forcing deep throws.
Chiefs passing game has gotten worse with each game.
With HOU, CLE, BUF, DEN, WAS in the next 5 weeks, and the way their passing game is struggling, they may be lucky to get 1 or 2 wins out of that.
Figured out?
It's weird, it seems like the only teams that have figured him out are the Giants and maybe Seattle. Everyone else has allowed him to operate at the typical efficient Smith level.
We saw it against the Giants a few weeks ago, but then they self destructed and could no longer play with the intensity and allowed him to pick them apart more. The Giants put out the "blueprint" 18+ months ago, and only now are teams figuring it out?
They were a good defense in that NFCC, but since then not so much.
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you haven't known, Smith is passing at 56% with nearly half as many INTs as TD's and a low rating. I'm talking about Reid's offense with Alex Smith. The KC passing game has gotten worse. Why don't you look at Smith's weekly rating. It has dropped nearly each week where it was at 94.4 in week 1 and was 56.9 week 6.
Even heard on the radio that the Raiders were focusing on the underneath routes. I have seen some of the other Chiefs games and the ones Alex played well, there were a lot of underneath routes open. In the past few weeks, the underneath coverage has been tighter and teams are forcing KC to throw the long bomb.
So, if teams are not beginning figure out the offense, then how do you explain the drop in production from week to week?
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Even with that, Chiefs could have a collapse. I want them to hurry up and win 8 because I have a bad feeling Reid is getting figured out. Teams are focusing on the underneath routes and forcing deep throws.
Chiefs passing game has gotten worse with each game.
With HOU, CLE, BUF, DEN, WAS in the next 5 weeks, and the way their passing game is struggling, they may be lucky to get 1 or 2 wins out of that.
Figured out?
It's weird, it seems like the only teams that have figured him out are the Giants and maybe Seattle. Everyone else has allowed him to operate at the typical efficient Smith level.
We saw it against the Giants a few weeks ago, but then they self destructed and could no longer play with the intensity and allowed him to pick them apart more. The Giants put out the "blueprint" 18+ months ago, and only now are teams figuring it out?
They were a good defense in that NFCC, but since then not so much.
If you haven't known, Smith is passing at 56% with nearly half as many INTs as TD's and a low rating. I'm talking about Reid's offense with Alex Smith. The KC passing game has gotten worse. Why don't you look at Smith's weekly rating. It has dropped nearly each week where it was at 94.4 in week 1 and was 56.9 week 6.
Even heard on the radio that the Raiders were focusing on the underneath routes. I have seen some of the other Chiefs games and the ones Alex played well, there were a lot of underneath routes open. In the past few weeks, the underneath coverage has been tighter and teams are forcing KC to throw the long bomb.
So, if teams are not beginning figure out the offense, then how do you explain the drop in production from week to week?
Originally posted by 49ersMVP:
So if Alex would have lost that game Chiefs fans would have ripped him a new one huh? Hahaha first off Alex didn't lose the game he kept his team in it and got the win which is all that matters in a game where the Chiefs offense especially the OL was struggling! Secondly any foolass Chiefs fans who want to whine and b***h about Alex they can go try and find a better QB who can take their 2-14 team to 6-0 and the playoffs good luck to them!!!!!!!!!!!
And the last time the 49ers beat the Seahawks in Seattle Alex Smith was the 9ers QB.
Originally posted by Method:Alex was god awful in that game. If they had lost, it would be all on him. He has to make those deep throws down the sidelines. Even if it's underthrown, at least make sure it gets to the receiver. Overthrowing them by 3 yards is a huge issue.
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by Method:
Alex was god awful in that game. If they had lost, it would be all on him. He has to make those deep throws down the sidelines. Even if it's underthrown, at least make sure it gets to the receiver. Overthrowing them by 3 yards is a huge issue.
Its like he does it on purpose. He did the EXACT SAME thing here! I'm glad we don't have to watch that crap anymore!
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you haven't known, Smith is passing at 56% with nearly half as many INTs as TD's and a low rating. I'm talking about Reid's offense with Alex Smith. The KC passing game has gotten worse. Why don't you look at Smith's weekly rating. It has dropped nearly each week where it was at 94.4 in week 1 and was 56.9 week 6.
Even heard on the radio that the Raiders were focusing on the underneath routes. I have seen some of the other Chiefs games and the ones Alex played well, there were a lot of underneath routes open. In the past few weeks, the underneath coverage has been tighter and teams are forcing KC to throw the long bomb.
So, if teams are not beginning figure out the offense, then how do you explain the drop in production from week to week?
Originally posted by Jakemall:
They're certainly b***hing about his performance yesterday.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you haven't known, Smith is passing at 56% with nearly half as many INTs as TD's and a low rating. I'm talking about Reid's offense with Alex Smith. The KC passing game has gotten worse. Why don't you look at Smith's weekly rating. It has dropped nearly each week where it was at 94.4 in week 1 and was 56.9 week 6.
Even heard on the radio that the Raiders were focusing on the underneath routes. I have seen some of the other Chiefs games and the ones Alex played well, there were a lot of underneath routes open. In the past few weeks, the underneath coverage has been tighter and teams are forcing KC to throw the long bomb.
So, if teams are not beginning figure out the offense, then how do you explain the drop in production from week to week?
Really...? lol JCharles got huge chunks of yardage out of the backfield from Captain Checkdown against the Raiders. So what the hell happened to that game plan
I think it's more of the Raiders covering the deep and intermediate 10yds out, and keeping 5-10yds in front of them, couple that with a good pass rush. And you saw what happened to the Chiefs, struggling to convert any 3rd and 9.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
If you haven't known, Smith is passing at 56% with nearly half as many INTs as TD's and a low rating. I'm talking about Reid's offense with Alex Smith. The KC passing game has gotten worse. Why don't you look at Smith's weekly rating. It has dropped nearly each week where it was at 94.4 in week 1 and was 56.9 week 6.
Even heard on the radio that the Raiders were focusing on the underneath routes. I have seen some of the other Chiefs games and the ones Alex played well, there were a lot of underneath routes open. In the past few weeks, the underneath coverage has been tighter and teams are forcing KC to throw the long bomb.
So, if teams are not beginning figure out the offense, then how do you explain the drop in production from week to week?
I've noticed the stats.
And believe me, I know what Smith likes to do. What I find interesting is that Smith finds decent success despite the fact that he's had two terrible games against the Giants over the last two seasons (with an average one vs. Seattle). It's quite puzzling because there's really nothing remarkable about the Giants' defense in 2011/2012 yet somehow their personnel seems to flummox him. This year their defense had almost no pass rush on him and still got two picks.
Then you get division rivals like Arizona who got annihilated by him last year in his final full game as a Niner. Say what you want about his style of play, that was an impressive offensive outing against a good defense in the division.
Teams have seemingly adjusted very well to Kaepernick and Wilson to the point that their drop offs are more dramatic than Smith's.
I'm just wondering what it is Smith can do that prevents all teams from shutting him down completely.
This is not a debate but a real question.
I want Smith to succeed and do damage, but even Andy Reid doing everything in his power to give him full autonomy and encourage him to be more aggressive isn't doing anything.
There's gonna come a time when he needs to open it up to win. He did it successfully vs. the Saints, but since that game going forward he has not as we all witnessed in the NFCC and 2012 games against Minnesota and NYG.
This season will probably end up like 2011 for him. It's up to him next season to take the next step (I know, broken record) otherwise it will be more of the same and his career as a starter will be in danger.