Three way trade -- Eagles get LB Ernie Sims, Lions get TE Tony Scheffler | Page 2

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM

evil
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Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Sims struggled last year in a new system and posted only 40 tackles in 10 games.

I agree that he didn't fit in Detroit and it was a good idea to move him but for home town TE Scheffler and a 7th

And I agree with you, not for Scheffler. They could have talked to Oakland for Morrison straight up, New Orleans in a package for Jammal Brown, or possibly for a conditional draft pick in 2011.

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:35 AM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM

#19

Shifty
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Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Sims struggled last year in a new system and posted only 40 tackles in 10 games.

I agree that he didn't fit in Detroit and it was a good idea to move him but for home town TE Scheffler and a 7th

And I agree with you, not for Scheffler. They could have talked to Oakland for Morrison straight up, New Orleans in a package for Jammal Brown, or possibly for a conditional draft pick in 2011.

I didn't realize Sims struggles in their new defense. However they should have gotten something different than Scheffler

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

That was known though. Part of the thinking at the time was that he would help block to cover up some of the deficiencies on the o-line, plus he added some receiving skills.

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by MrOrange:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

That was known though. Part of the thinking at the time was that he would help block to cover up some of the deficiencies on the o-line, plus he added some receiving skills.

I thought Pettigrew was meant to be a good catching TE. It's insanity to take a TE for his blocking skills in the 1st round

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

That was known though. Part of the thinking at the time was that he would help block to cover up some of the deficiencies on the o-line, plus he added some receiving skills.

I thought Pettigrew was meant to be a good catching TE. It's insanity to take a TE for his blocking skills in the 1st round

I think there is upside in that department with him given his immense size for a TE plus his athleticism

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by MrOrange:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

That was known though. Part of the thinking at the time was that he would help block to cover up some of the deficiencies on the o-line, plus he added some receiving skills.

He was drafted because he is a 2 way TE, and a 3 down type of player, one who can block and catch. He is a natural pass catcher with good hands and was a good blocking end as well at Oklahoma State.

If they needed a blocking TE they could have gotten one later on, but his abilities as a pass catching TE and not just as a blocker is what had him go 20th.

Apr 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM

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2 TE sets may be a necessity if they aren't going to draft Okung with their first round pick.

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM

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WOW worst 1st round picks in a row ever

overall

3rd Joey ballgame
2nd Charles Rogers
7th Roy Williams
10th Mike Williams
9th Ernie Sims

5 top 10 picks not one is still with the team

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM

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Shifty
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Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
WOW worst 1st round picks in a row ever

overall

3rd Joey ballgame
2nd Charles Rogers
7th Roy Williams
10th Mike Williams
9th Ernie Sims

5 top 10 picks not one is still with the team

I'm kinda surprised they still have fans

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

Thats disgusting, since Michael Oher was available for them to protect Stafford with.

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
WOW worst 1st round picks in a row ever

overall

3rd Joey ballgame
2nd Charles Rogers
7th Roy Williams
10th Mike Williams
9th Ernie Sims

5 top 10 picks not one is still with the team

I'm kinda surprised they still have fans

If teams like the Pittsburgh Pirates, Kansas City Royals, and LA Clippers still have fans, then don't be so surprised that the Lions have fans. You don't recognize them because they usually have bags on their heads.

[ Edited by RedWaltz24 on Apr 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM ]

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
WOW worst 1st round picks in a row ever

overall

3rd Joey ballgame
2nd Charles Rogers
7th Roy Williams
10th Mike Williams
9th Ernie Sims

5 top 10 picks not one is still with the team

LOL...it's Joey Blueskies bra.

Cornbread!

Apr 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM

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Shifty
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Originally posted by ninerlifer:
Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
Originally posted by MrOrange:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5113415

Shefter makes some good points:

1. Scheffler is a receiving TE while Pettigrew is more of a blocking TE.

2. Sims didn't fit the scheme AND he is in the last year of his contract and they didn't feel like they could re-sign him.

I think Denver is better off with a 5th rounder vs keeping Scheffler and a 7th because he has been a distraction ever since the Cutler fiasco.

There is always more to the story.....

Lions drafted a blocking TE in the first round?

Thats disgusting, since Michael Oher was available for them to protect Stafford with.

Pretty much, i remember being shocked when they didnt take Oher. I also thought they would take James Laurinitus (spelling?) in the 2nd round. Giving them a LB trio of Ernie Sims, Laurinitus and Julian Peterson. Oh well.