Nate Davis thread

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I cant wait till he gets his chance

you may be waiting a while

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
I cant wait till he gets his chance

you may be waiting a while

best response ever!

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
give smith an average o line and an offseason as starter and he will be fine look how many qbs have come back after 2 years and didnt even get 1st team reps before season and did as well as smith has this season. I think next year he will be a top 10 QB the real problem of our team is KR/PR and o line and dropped passes not the QB

Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger... just to name a few.

Anyways, my feeling is that the potential benefit of giving Davis get a bit a playing time with a simplified playbook far outweighs the negative impact that it would have on Smith, Davis, and the organization if he were to struggle.

I mean, what if???? What if we give Nate the rock and he proceeds to go out there and simply carve up the opposing defense and give us all a reminder of how a real QB leads an offense... It would give the organization a clear cut leader for the offense heading into the offseason, it would serve as instant inspiration for the team, and would galvanize public support for the franchise.

On the other hand, if he were to fall flat on his face (a distinct possibility), it would needlessly take a hand full of reps from smith and COULD hurt Davis' confidence.

Thoughts???

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
give smith an average o line and an offseason as starter and he will be fine look how many qbs have come back after 2 years and didnt even get 1st team reps before season and did as well as smith has this season. I think next year he will be a top 10 QB the real problem of our team is KR/PR and o line and dropped passes not the QB

Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger... just to name a few.

Anyways, my feeling is that the potential benefit of giving Davis get a bit a playing time with a simplified playbook far outweighs the negative impact that it would have on Smith, Davis, and the organization if he were to struggle.

I mean, what if???? What if we give Nate the rock and he proceeds to go out there and simply carve up the opposing defense and give us all a reminder of how a real QB leads an offense... It would give the organization a clear cut leader for the offense heading into the offseason, it would serve as instant inspiration for the team, and would galvanize public support for the franchise.

On the other hand, if he were to fall flat on his face (a distinct possibility), it would needlessly take a hand full of reps from smith and COULD hurt Davis' confidence.

Thoughts???

Well, many will oppose simply because they want to see Smith put up good numbers against the two worst teams in the league so they can claim we are turning the corner. I like the idea of giving Nate some reps, but unfortunately, he gets zero practice at QB in practice (or at least very little), therefore, it would be like throwing Robinson in at QB, not well at all.

I think the real question is, should Alex be the uncontested starter in 2010? or should he be competing with Davis, and another vet or rookie?

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Nate Davis is no where near ready to play.

That is the exactly what Mike Nolan thought before Diler got hurt, and Shaun Hill had to come in. Hill came in and proved that he was better than Dilfer, eventually becomin the starting quarterback of this team

wow, thats a foolish, misinformed post.

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Nate Davis is no where near ready to play.

That is the exactly what Mike Nolan thought before Diler got hurt, and Shaun Hill had to come in. Hill came in and proved that he was better than Dilfer, eventually becomin the starting quarterback of this team

wow, thats a foolish, misinformed post.

lol

Originally posted by SJniner7:

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
give smith an average o line and an offseason as starter and he will be fine look how many qbs have come back after 2 years and didnt even get 1st team reps before season and did as well as smith has this season. I think next year he will be a top 10 QB the real problem of our team is KR/PR and o line and dropped passes not the QB

Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger... just to name a few.

Anyways, my feeling is that the potential benefit of giving Davis get a bit a playing time with a simplified playbook far outweighs the negative impact that it would have on Smith, Davis, and the organization if he were to struggle.

I mean, what if???? What if we give Nate the rock and he proceeds to go out there and simply carve up the opposing defense and give us all a reminder of how a real QB leads an offense... It would give the organization a clear cut leader for the offense heading into the offseason, it would serve as instant inspiration for the team, and would galvanize public support for the franchise.

On the other hand, if he were to fall flat on his face (a distinct possibility), it would needlessly take a hand full of reps from smith and COULD hurt Davis' confidence.

Thoughts???

Well, many will oppose simply because they want to see Smith put up good numbers against the two worst teams in the league so they can claim we are turning the corner. I like the idea of giving Nate some reps, but unfortunately, he gets zero practice at QB in practice (or at least very little), therefore, it would be like throwing Robinson in at QB, not well at all.

I think the real question is, should Alex be the uncontested starter in 2010? or should he be competing with Davis, and another vet or rookie?

We need a new vet QB who has a decent arm that is a back up and just give Smith his one last shot with all the reps and building timing and chemistry with his WRs. If he fails mid season we can turn to the vet and still not kill our season. If he succeeds it will be because he's been put in the best position to. But please no more QB competitions. First it was Smith Hill, then JTO/Hill, then Smith/Hill again, and what winds up happening is we never taylor our offense to our QB's strengths, we never get that chemistry with the recievers, they always split snaps and alternate days in practice and not get in a rythm. With Hill in at QB we had a few guys running routes he couldn't throw(deep out, go route, etc.) and not enough quick passes to take advantage of his smart play and compensate for his midget arm. Now with Smith we don't have what he likes to do, we don't have enough passing plays, there aren't as many roll outs, not enough shot gun plays, don't have enough of the intermediate routes, etc. Just build it around a QB's strength and then get a back up. I'm not sure the ideal back up exists, maybe it's like AJ Feeley or someone. He played decent for the Eagles except a few too many INTs.

Or we could take another later round QB like a guy like Max Hall or Sean Canfield but then we're either carrying 4 QBs or we have no vet back up. The upside to those guys is they'd be able to learn the offense a lot faster than Nate Davis and we wouldn't be using a high pick spent on another need like OT that's more of a sure fire pick.

He looks great against the 4th stringers who gut cut in preseason. A PRESEASON TIGER. Like Delanie Walker and Josh Morgan. We have lots of guys like that.

this is a waste of a thread

Quote:
Coach Singletary wants to see Alex Smith play every snap. Rookie Nate Davis will not see any action in final two games, coach says.

http://twitter.com/MattMaiocco

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by insanemike27:
Let him sit. Smith is our QB going into next year. That's all it is, so get over it.

If he is then McCloughan needs to be fired immediately, if he isn't (which is obviously the obvious choice) then we can finally move on and become a winning football team again.

you really believe an essentially rookie QB, Nate Davis, will win more games than he loses? You really believe that the QB is the only problem with the team? because that is what you're implying by saying a QB change will lead to a winning team.

Some fans are so delusional and they don't seem to observe the rest of the league. Nate Davis will not provide the immediate success many of you are hoping for. Just because you see a Ben Rothlisberger come in and play well (on a very good team) and a Matt Ryan, doesnt mean that this is the norm. These men are the exception and so many people have been clamoring for the backup ever since Garcia left thinking this person can take a bad team, lacking talent and take it to the playoffs. It just doesnt happen as often as you think.

The team finally has some talent through free agency and the draft because of what McCloughan has done. Yea, he's missed on some players and some players have turned out to be gems. Thats just the way the draft works.

This team was so devoid of talent, it was going to take several years to get it back up to even contention. Because of the weak NFC West, so many people are falsely believing that this team should be in the playoffs. And once this team got in the playoffs, the wouldn't win. They're just not ready yet.

I know that if we selected the right QB in the darn first place we would of made the Playoffs the last 2 years. And we'd be a lot farther along. Our D is good, our O for the most part is good. The biggest problem on this team is we don't have a good quarterback.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by insanemike27:
Let him sit. Smith is our QB going into next year. That's all it is, so get over it.

If he is then McCloughan needs to be fired immediately, if he isn't (which is obviously the obvious choice) then we can finally move on and become a winning football team again.

You are a very funny person!!!!!! Yup, we are going to fire the GM because the third string rookie qb hasn't yet been chosen to start.

NT. Acid for football supporters

Huh? I said he should be fired if Alex is our starter next year. I wish on another matter that we'd completely get off this trainwreck, and just throw Nate the last 2 games to see what he has, though at the same time I'd rather see Joe Nedney on one leg then Alex Smith under center.

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by waiting4number6:

Originally posted by insanemike27:
Let him sit. Smith is our QB going into next year. That's all it is, so get over it.

If he is then McCloughan needs to be fired immediately, if he isn't (which is obviously the obvious choice) then we can finally move on and become a winning football team again.

you really believe an essentially rookie QB, Nate Davis, will win more games than he loses? You really believe that the QB is the only problem with the team? because that is what you're implying by saying a QB change will lead to a winning team.

Some fans are so delusional and they don't seem to observe the rest of the league. Nate Davis will not provide the immediate success many of you are hoping for. Just because you see a Ben Rothlisberger come in and play well (on a very good team) and a Matt Ryan, doesnt mean that this is the norm. These men are the exception and so many people have been clamoring for the backup ever since Garcia left thinking this person can take a bad team, lacking talent and take it to the playoffs. It just doesnt happen as often as you think.

The team finally has some talent through free agency and the draft because of what McCloughan has done. Yea, he's missed on some players and some players have turned out to be gems. Thats just the way the draft works.

This team was so devoid of talent, it was going to take several years to get it back up to even contention. Because of the weak NFC West, so many people are falsely believing that this team should be in the playoffs. And once this team got in the playoffs, the wouldn't win. They're just not ready yet.

I know that if we selected the right QB in the darn first place we would of made the Playoffs the last 2 years. And we'd be a lot farther along. Our D is good, our O for the most part is good. The biggest problem on this team is we don't have a good quarterback.[/quote]

Biggest problems (plural) are O-Line and Team Speed. Pass rush can be thrown in for it's lack of consistency.

And selecting the right QB is really easy too. I mean, thats why there are just so many Pro Bowlers and HOFers out there. The just come into the league ready to set the world on fire like Dan Marino and John Elway and Peyton Manning, and Steve Yong. Oh wait, steve didnt't come in and light it up. Oh, neither did Brady. And neither did Aikman.

Man, QB development has nothing to do with how well a QB does.

why not lett him play lets see what we and him got !

NO WORK FOR NATE: Mike Singletary put the Kibosh on any appearances by rookie quarterback Nate Davis.

"I want to get every ounce out of Alex Smith," Singletary said. If the 49ers are going to groom Smith into a starter in their new offense, it makes sense for him to take every snap. Also, Davis has rarely practiced because backup Shaun Hill runs the scout team. On top of that, Davis doesn't know the entire playbook. Waiting for an opportunity when he feels more prepared seems to sit just fine with Davis.

"I'm just bidding time and learning," Davis said. Since he doesn't yet know the playbook, Davis would need a wrist band with the plays in order to make the calls.



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If this guys learning disability is that serious that he still doesn't know the whole 5 play playbook of Jimmy Ray then he has no business in the NFL. Raw talent or not
what would happen the first time we change coaches or OCs? Is he going to be nonfunctional for a season? Good grief Charlie Brown. Save us a roster spot.