*UPDATED* Draft picks the 49ers own for 2023

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Recent FA signings have changed my numbers a lot (adding Oliver and Hartsfield), so the number has dropped significantly. But as it stands now I can see two TEs, two corners (wouldn't be shocked if Thomas got beat out), a run stuffer, one or two O-linemen, a safety, and an edge rusher making the roster. That puts us at 9 with no one on the practice squad yet.

You proposed a more sensible trade with using a single third and a third next year to move up- no problem there. My issue is the idea of trading more than 2 picks for a player that is going to be how much better than who we get at 99, 101, etc.

Now if draft day comes and at 99 we see a few guys we really like, go for it. But I just don't see the value being there.

My question to thr trade up crowd is how many locks do you have for this roster? Are there more than 42 guys that just couldn't be beaten out?

I don't even seen 9 guys making the roster. For sure you can stash them on PS. Maybe. They also have a pretty good record of getting UDFAs too.

They could value a ton of prospects that have a chance to play meaningful snaps or be setup to start in 2024, that aren't gonna be there at 99. I got no problem moving some picks to get a guy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Recent FA signings have changed my numbers a lot (adding Oliver and Hartsfield), so the number has dropped significantly. But as it stands now I can see two TEs, two corners (wouldn't be shocked if Thomas got beat out), a run stuffer, one or two O-linemen, a safety, and an edge rusher making the roster. That puts us at 9 with no one on the practice squad yet.

You proposed a more sensible trade with using a single third and a third next year to move up- no problem there. My issue is the idea of trading more than 2 picks for a player that is going to be how much better than who we get at 99, 101, etc.

Now if draft day comes and at 99 we see a few guys we really like, go for it. But I just don't see the value being there.

My question to thr trade up crowd is how many locks do you have for this roster? Are there more than 42 guys that just couldn't be beaten out?

I don't even seen 9 guys making the roster. For sure you can stash them on PS. Maybe. They also have a pretty good record of getting UDFAs too.

They could value a ton of prospects that have a chance to play meaningful snaps or be setup to start in 2024, that aren't gonna be there at 99. I got no problem moving some picks to get a guy.

My issue is this- we can package our first 5 picks and that will get you to pick around pick 56 or 57. Is the one guy at 56 or 57 worth equal to or more than the five guys they would take with the original picks?

Keep in mind, some of our recent losses and where they were drafted (Ebukam-4th), (Omenihu-5th), and the still unsigned Willis- 3rd round.

They could also value a ton of prospects that are ranked around 100 - 200. Id imagine they do given what they have done in that area over the last 6 drafts.

It's about value to me and I can't see one guy in the second or one guy in the third contributing more than multiple guys that could be developed and play meaningful snaps in 2024. It would be different if our picks were one round higher.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
My issue is this- we can package our first 5 picks and that will get you to pick around pick 56 or 57. Is the one guy at 56 or 57 worth equal to or more than the five guys they would take with the original picks?

Keep in mind, some of our recent losses and where they were drafted (Ebukam-4th), (Omenihu-5th), and the still unsigned Willis- 3rd round.

They could also value a ton of prospects that are ranked around 100 - 200. Id imagine they do given what they have done in that area over the last 6 drafts.

It's about value to me and I can't see one guy in the second or one guy in the third contributing more than multiple guys that could be developed and play meaningful snaps in 2024. It would be different if our picks were one round higher.

I'm not saying package 5 picks. I'm saying moving up should be an option. We got like 11 picks next yr all the same. Use both. If there's a guy higher up in the 3rd that you think will be a contributor or possible future starter go get him.

You gotta be able keep those multiple later rd prospects on the team to develop. You can't keep all of them the way this roster is setup right now, at some point you're throwing picks in the trash because you can't keep them.

Give up one of our 3rds this yr & next plus one of our day 3 picks to move up in the 3rd. I don't think it will cost as much as usual based on this draft. Those value charts are a guideline not a rule.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
My issue is this- we can package our first 5 picks and that will get you to pick around pick 56 or 57. Is the one guy at 56 or 57 worth equal to or more than the five guys they would take with the original picks?

Keep in mind, some of our recent losses and where they were drafted (Ebukam-4th), (Omenihu-5th), and the still unsigned Willis- 3rd round.

They could also value a ton of prospects that are ranked around 100 - 200. Id imagine they do given what they have done in that area over the last 6 drafts.

It's about value to me and I can't see one guy in the second or one guy in the third contributing more than multiple guys that could be developed and play meaningful snaps in 2024. It would be different if our picks were one round higher.

I'm not saying package 5 picks. I'm saying moving up should be an option. We got like 11 picks next yr all the same. Use both. If there's a guy higher up in the 3rd that you think will be a contributor or possible future starter go get him.

You gotta be able keep those multiple later rd prospects on the team to develop. You can't keep all of them the way this roster is setup right now, at some point you're throwing picks in the trash because you can't keep them.

Give up one of our 3rds this yr & next plus one of our day 3 picks to move up in the 3rd. I don't think it will cost as much as usual based on this draft. Those value charts are a guideline not a rule.

Well as I said before, it's all about the cost. And it's dependent upon who is available. What you proposed isn't as costly as these scenarios I'm hearing of moving up to the second, but even with the one you suggested- it really depends on who it is. Moving up for a guy that they had in the top 50 that's fallen into the 3rd, sure. Moving up for a guy that is your usual 3rd round pick- absolutely not.

As for being able to keep everyone, that's a fair point. But depending on what position is drafted, I can see quite a few rookies making this roster, moreso than in previous years.

With Jordan Willis officially gone, I could see two DEs making the team, a FS, one corner, two TEs (yes Ross Dwelley resigned, but I don't consider his spot guaranteed), a run stuffing DT, and one or two OL. That's 8 or 9 picks on the 53. I'm not sure Ambry Thomas is safe, so that's potentially another spot for a corner. It does leave a little wiggle room to move up if there's a guy they really like, but I just hope we aren't giving away multiple picks this year (more than 2) for a guy that is going to be how much better than the player we can draft at the end of the third?