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Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by 49ers808:
I'm willing to bet there's not many GM's who'd take a 4th dt in 5 years. Hardly the only person on the planet. It only sounds bad out of context.
Originally posted by tjd808185:I'm willing to bet there's not many GM's who'd take a 4th dt in 5 years. Hardly the only person on the planet. It only sounds bad out of context.
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by Stanley:Originally posted by NYniner85:No trade down I take Jonah...yeah I said it lol
Regardless I see a team wanting a shot at the top tackle, DT, or QB end of the day
If that's what happens, I'd be 100% ok with having an elite offensive line creating holes for McKinnon and Breida. at least until Staley says goodbye.
A year too early to think about going OL in the first.
Originally posted by 49ers808:That's not what you said. Good cover up on the out of context statement
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:It sounds bad period. Its like "well we've blown 3 draft picks on QBs so we have no choice but to pass on Peyton Manning obviously."
Its one thing if you think that Williams will be a lousy/average player. If you believe that he can be an All Pro level player, who gives a crap who you've drafted, especially when two of those guys were by a completely different GM.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:I don't think you go wrong with either Bama Williams.
I might be old but I member what the 49ers interior defense looked like with BY and Stubblefield. Having Buckner and Williams inside with Thomas at big end would be a tough proposition for opposing offenses. You could also rotate all three to keep them fresh late in games.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:It sounds bad period. Its like "well we've blown 3 draft picks on QBs so we have no choice but to pass on Peyton Manning obviously."
Its one thing if you think that Williams will be a lousy/average player. If you believe that he can be an All Pro level player, who gives a crap who you've drafted, especially when two of those guys were by a completely different GM.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I don't think you go wrong with either Bama Williams.
I might be old but I member what the 49ers interior defense looked like with BY and Stubblefield. Having Buckner and Williams inside with Thomas at big end would be a tough proposition for opposing offenses. You could also rotate all three to keep them fresh late in games.
Might as well trade Thomas/AA if that's the plan. Solly isn't a outside rusher, never has been never will be. If you want him as a 2 down edge defender you're basically throwing away that 3rd overall pick.
He hasn't played to his draft status we all agree, I think we can also agree he's a interior rusher and if given some time might turn into a good starter for yrs to come in that role. I don't see lynch and Co. moving off him that soon, just don't.
We have a lot of good young talent on that DL...were lacking an explosive edge rusher that teams actually give a s**t about. Great we'd have two amazing DTs, this league is full of athletic QBs who are mobile and play outside of the pocket now. Offenses are more spread out than back in the BY/Stubblefield days.
At least with Jonah it's not a cluster f**k of young talent all at the same spot, his role would be defined along with everyone else on that OL (short term and long term).
I still wouldn't be against reaching a little for a edge rusher, who cares if Burns/Allen aren't viewed as top 2 talents...If they play well no one cares if you drafted them a little high. I still think a trade down scenario is very likely if SF is picking at 2.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
We really need Bosa or this is going to be a painful draft.
Originally posted by SFrush:If we stay at 2 and Q.Williams is the BPA I'm not passing him up because of an underachieving Solomon Thomas.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Might as well trade Thomas/AA if that's the plan. Solly isn't a outside rusher, never has been never will be. If you want him as a 2 down edge defender you're basically throwing away that 3rd overall pick.
He hasn't played to his draft status we all agree, I think we can also agree he's a interior rusher and if given some time might turn into a good starter for yrs to come in that role. I don't see lynch and Co. moving off him that soon, just don't.
who cares if Burns/Allen aren't viewed as top 2 talents...If they play well no one cares if you drafted them a little high
Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by tjd808185:We really need Bosa or this is going to be a painful draft.
If we end up with QW we should be ok.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If you feel that QW is a potential All-Pro, you don't pass on that because of Thomas and Armstead. Thomas can still play the big end and contribute on run downs. You still have him under team control for three more seasons. Armstead can go to a 3-4 team and play DE there. Those aren't guys that make or break your decisions.
who cares if Burns/Allen aren't viewed as top 2 talents...If they play well no one cares if you drafted them a little high
And if you they turn out to be average 6-7 sack a year guys while QW turns out to be an All-Pro level DT, your entire front office should be fired and never ever work in any kind of scouting capacity in the NFL again.
You don't pass up on potentially great to settle for average because that is where your need falls. If they feel that Burns and Allen have that same sort of upside, then so be it but I don't think anyone is making that argument. Most have Bosa and QW as 1 and 2 in this draft class.