DK Metcalf

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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Ole Miss has AJ Brown a wr they met at the combine, Im 100% sure Metcalf won't be a 9er.


Actually, they also met with Metcalf at the combine. We don't have the pick for Metcalf, but it doesn't hurt to monitor the progress.
I think everyone here would prefer Bosa. But if we trade down at some point he's worth the pick.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
I think everyone here would prefer Bosa. But if we trade down at some point he's worth the pick.


That is exactly my point too.

As much as I like him as a prospect, I am not going to get into a debate with Bosa at 2.

That 2 pick has its own debate between Q and Bosa. I wouldn't want to get involved with that neither. That's a tough one, Q is the better player, but EDGE is the bigger need.

But, like you said if we trade down, Metcalf has to be in the conversation.

People who don't like him can say all they want, don't argue with me, argue with the experts, he is the undisputed #1 WR prospect in this draft without a question. I don't think I have seen Metcalf not ranked #1 by any analyst. Or let's just say 99% of the analysts have him as the #1 WR.
[ Edited by Rascal on Mar 17, 2019 at 7:50 PM ]
Originally posted by tjd808185:
I think everyone here would prefer Bosa. But if we trade down at some point he's worth the pick.
No not everyone you are assuming, I for one would like to draft B Burns,trade the 2nd and get Bburns and maybe a couple more high draft picks. Just not really feeling Bosa tooooooo much hype and not enough train.
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
No not everyone you are assuming, I for one would like to draft B Burns,trade the 2nd and get Bburns and maybe a couple more high draft picks. Just not really feeling Bosa tooooooo much hype and not enough train.

Potato, potato. You could of said Q as well. Point is no one I've seen has him as their #2 prospect or biggest position need just we think he'll be baller and if we were to trade down at some point he should be on the radar.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Mar 18, 2019 at 5:45 AM ]
Originally posted by Rascal:
That is exactly my point too.

As much as I like him as a prospect, I am not going to get into a debate with Bosa at 2.

That 2 pick has its own debate between Q and Bosa. I wouldn't want to get involved with that neither. That's a tough one, Q is the better player, but EDGE is the bigger need.

But, like you said if we trade down, Metcalf has to be in the conversation.

People who don't like him can say all they want, don't argue with me, argue with the experts, he is the undisputed #1 WR prospect in this draft without a question. I don't think I have seen Metcalf not ranked #1 by any analyst. Or let's just say 99% of the analysts have him as the #1 WR.

Personally I hope every GM thinks the way they do. Realistically only way we get him is if he falls to the 2nd. Here's a concerning stat. 70% of his catches were on gos or hitches.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Mar 18, 2019 at 5:50 AM ]
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Personally I hope every GM thinks the way they do. Realistically only way we get him is if he falls to the 2nd. Here's a concerning stat. 70% of his catches were on gos or hitches.


By taking Bosa at 2, basically Lynch will only be trying to play safe and hoping the kid will pan out to help pay back on the 2 busts he cost us with Thomas and Foster.

Unless they take a swing and say fxxk it, afterall didn't people say Solomon Thomas was supposed to be a safe pick at 3 overall? He still busted out. So, why not think outside of the box, trade down say with the Giants to take 6 and 17 to grab Metcalf and Burns. That way, at least they will get 2 cracks at it to increase their chances of picking a winner.

I don't care about 70% of his catches were on gos and hitches. They were supposed to. My argument will be if you didn't use him on go routes, you wouldn't be maximizing his strengths to the fore. DK's job is to take the top off defenses and to dominate on deep routes and in the red zone. He is not a slot receiver, so let's not kid ourselves here which is precisely why outside receivers are usually bigger and paid better.
[ Edited by Rascal on Mar 18, 2019 at 7:27 AM ]
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Personally I hope every GM thinks the way they do. Realistically only way we get him is if he falls to the 2nd. Here's a concerning stat. 70% of his catches were on gos or hitches.


By taking Bosa at 2, basically Lynch will only be trying to play safe and hoping the kid will pan out to help pay back to the 2 busts he cost us with Thomas and Foster.

Unless they take a swing and say fxxk it, afterall didn't people say Solomon Thomas was a safe pick at 3 overall? He still busted out. So, why not think outside of the box, trade down say with the Giants to take 6 and 17 to grab Metcalf and Burns. That way, at least they will get 2 cracks at it to increase their chances of picking a winner.

I don't care about 70% of his catches were on gos and hitches. They were supposed to. My argument will be if you didn't use him on go routes, you wouldn't be maximizing his strengths to the fore. DK's job is to take the top off defenses and to dominate on deep routes and in the red zone. He is not a slot receiver, so let's not kid ourselves here which is precisely why outside receivers are usually bigger and paid better.
Good point that every pick is a risk even when considered safe.

I love DK and think he's going to be good.
Originally posted by Rascal:
By taking Bosa at 2, basically Lynch will only be trying to play safe and hoping the kid will pan out to help pay back to the 2 busts he cost us with Thomas and Foster.

Unless they take a swing and say fxxk it, afterall didn't people say Solomon Thomas was a safe pick at 3 overall? He still busted out. So, why not think outside of the box, trade down say with the Giants to take 6 and 17 to grab Metcalf and Burns. That way, at least they will get 2 cracks at it to increase their chances of picking a winner.

I don't care about 70% of his catches were on gos and hitches. They were supposed to. My argument will be if you didn't use him on go routes, you wouldn't be maximizing his strengths to the fore. DK's job is to take the top off defenses and to dominate on deep routes and in the red zone. He is not a slot receiver, so let's not kid ourselves here which is precisely why outside receivers are usually bigger and paid better.

Solly is a different can of worms to Bosa. Most people saw him as a safe pick but they looked past how we'd use him. I know I argued extensively that he'll be a bust if we play him as a Leo who kicks in like he's Myles Garrett. I still think he can be a good player though just you got to play him like he was played in college. On the left side vs rt's in base, kicking in on passing downs.

With Bosa there's little concern how to play him. Big leo, strongside in nickel. He's not far off what Saleh envisioned for Solly only he doesn't suck at it.

I agree with you on DK and I'm not against a trade down but I would be upset if we pass on Bosa. A nickel line of Ford, Buckner, Thomas, Ford is something to dream about. It's just about a perfect d line. You got speed off the edge, an edge who can take on doubles, Buckner and Thomas play off each other well.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Solly is a different can of worms to Bosa. Most people saw him as a safe pick but they looked past how we'd use him. I know I argued extensively that he'll be a bust if we play him as a Leo who kicks in like he's Myles Garrett. I still think he can be a good player though just you got to play him like he was played in college. On the left side vs rt's in base, kicking in on passing downs.

With Bosa there's little concern how to play him. Big leo, strongside in nickel. He's not far off what Saleh envisioned for Solly only he doesn't suck at it.

I agree with you on DK and I'm not against a trade down but I would be upset if we pass on Bosa. A nickel line of Ford, Buckner, Thomas, Ford is something to dream about. It's just about a perfect d line. You got speed off the edge, an edge who can take on doubles, Buckner and Thomas play off each other well.


So, let me ask you this, do you think Bosa is worth more than Metcalf + Burns? He is that good?

Originally posted by Rascal:
So, let me ask you this, do you think Bosa is worth more than Metcalf + Burns? He is that good?

I haven't looked at Burns much. Just know he ran a nice 40.


He does make a compelling argument for taking a chance on DK. When you're that big and fast, you don't really need to run every route to be successful. Kyle loves receivers who can separate and DK can do that on his go-to routes. I just wish his hands were better, but that didn't stop TO from becoming great, so who knows.
[ Edited by Nastastical on Mar 18, 2019 at 11:22 AM ]
Originally posted by Nastastical:


He does make a compelling argument for taking a chance on DK. When you're that big and fast, you don't really need to run every route to be successful. Kyle loves receivers who can separate and DK can do that on his go-to routes. I just wish his hands were better, but that didn't stop TO from becoming great, so who knows.

Excellent video and glad he broke down the slant because that's going to be a requirement if he's going to be successful. Gordon, CJ are beasts at slants. Would of liked to see more of that from him but he was stuck in a 1 dimensional role.
Originally posted by Rascal:
So, let me ask you this, do you think Bosa is worth more than Metcalf + Burns? He is that good?

How are you getting Burns and Metcalf? Both guys are likely top 12 picks.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
How are you getting Burns and Metcalf? Both guys are likely top 12 picks.


We don't know that yet. Or let me rephrase, say take Metcalf at 6 and an EDGE at 17 whoever that is such as Ferrell.

Did you see that latest article that we might not take Bosa? This is getting much more complicated than we originally thought.
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