Originally posted by NYniner85:Lol so if productivity is what matters most we should be drafting sutton smith at 2 overall.
Talent is last lol? I'm glad you're not the GM
Hey don't talk bad about Sutton Smith though I like him
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Lol so if productivity is what matters most we should be drafting sutton smith at 2 overall.
Talent is last lol? I'm glad you're not the GM
Originally posted by Waterbear:Originally posted by NYniner85:Lol so if productivity is what matters most we should be drafting sutton smith at 2 overall.
Talent is last lol? I'm glad you're not the GM
Hey don't talk bad about Sutton Smith though I like him
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Lol, I thought you we're gonna show me Metcalf catching the ball with his pinky finger while drinking gatorade blindfolded.
C'mon now, its the NFL now, that's a routinely catch in the NFL that more than half of the WRs in the league can do.
Lol yeah a one handed catch into the end zone is routine now . He's Mike Evans on steroids
Originally posted by Waterbear:Yeah you scout all that, huh?
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
It's so routinely, even RBs, TEs and cavemans can do it too...lol
Originally posted by NYniner85:Lol so if productivity is what matters most we should be drafting sutton smith at 2 overall.
Talent is last lol? I'm glad you're not the GM
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Didn't said I wanted to be the GM, just said that is how I scout players not how anyone else should scout, everyone have their own different strategies that works for them.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if your character and work ethic sucks then you're not going to succeed. Just ask Aldon Smith, Aaron Lynch, Justin Blackmon, J.Manziel just to name a few. "Hard work beats talent"
As for Sutton Smith, yes he's very productive and consistent but can't depend on him on run defense, so dependability is not there. So no, I wouldn't pick him with the 2nd overall. But he's a player I would consider in the end of the 1st round. Sutton Smith is underrated IMO.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Didn't said I wanted to be the GM, just said that is how I scout players not how anyone else should scout, everyone have their own different strategies that works for them.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if your character and work ethic sucks then you're not going to succeed. Just ask Aldon Smith, Aaron Lynch, Justin Blackmon, J.Manziel just to name a few. "Hard work beats talent"
As for Sutton Smith, yes he's very productive and consistent but can't depend on him on run defense, so dependability is not there. So no, I wouldn't pick him with the 2nd overall. But he's a player I would consider in the end of the 1st round. Sutton Smith is underrated IMO.
Pass rush>>>>stopping the run he won't be drafted until day 3 because his talent and ceiling as a NFL caliber player is low.
I mean might as well snag WR Andy Isabella real early cause he had the most yards this yr. Gardner Minshew should be a top 10 pick based on production, character, being dependable etc. Maybe someone sill move up and trade with us for him
Manziel Imo wasn't talent and was a product of a spread offense. There was nothing about him that was special. Avg arm, not a uber athlete, not super accurate etc. lynch was a 5th rd pick not sure I get that example. Smith didn't have a bunch of red flags coming into the league (at least known that were talked about).
Hard work mixed with talent is what you want...Which is what Metcalfhas. Go look him up he's clean and is all ball. Literally his only flaw is health and if that checks out he will be the 1st WR taken.
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Didn't said I wanted to be the GM, just said that is how I scout players not how anyone else should scout, everyone have their own different strategies that works for them.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if your character and work ethic sucks then you're not going to succeed. Just ask Aldon Smith, Aaron Lynch, Justin Blackmon, J.Manziel just to name a few. "Hard work beats talent"
As for Sutton Smith, yes he's very productive and consistent but can't depend on him on run defense, so dependability is not there. So no, I wouldn't pick him with the 2nd overall. But he's a player I would consider in the end of the 1st round. Sutton Smith is underrated IMO.
Pass rush>>>>stopping the run he won't be drafted until day 3 because his talent and ceiling as a NFL caliber player is low.
I mean might as well snag WR Andy Isabella real early cause he had the most yards this yr. Gardner Minshew should be a top 10 pick based on production, character, being dependable etc. Maybe someone sill move up and trade with us for him
Manziel Imo wasn't talent and was a product of a spread offense. There was nothing about him that was special. Avg arm, not a uber athlete, not super accurate etc. lynch was a 5th rd pick not sure I get that example. Smith didn't have a bunch of red flags coming into the league (at least known that were talked about).
Hard work mixed with talent is what you want...Which is what Metcalfhas. Go look him up he's clean and is all ball. Literally his only flaw is health and if that checks out he will be the 1st WR taken.
Thank you, that's why I have it on my 1st round category board. My 1st rd players have to check all 6 of those boxes for me to put a 1st rd grade for them. Just me now, remember, just my strategy. Not speaking for everyone else.
Originally posted by Waterbear:Still wondering how either of you scout hard work.
Originally posted by Waterbear:Still wondering how either of you scout hard work.
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Still wondering how either of you scout hard work.
It's called Work Ethics my friend. Can't believe we have to explain it in a preschool way for some posters to understand..lol
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Originally posted by NYniner85:Lol so if productivity is what matters most we should be drafting sutton smith at 2 overall.
Talent is last lol? I'm glad you're not the GM
Didn't said I wanted to be the GM, just said that is how I scout players not how anyone else should scout, everyone have their own different strategies that works for them.
You can have all the talent in the world, but if your character and work ethic sucks then you're not going to succeed. Just ask Aldon Smith, Aaron Lynch, Justin Blackmon, J.Manziel just to name a few. "Hard work beats talent"
As for Sutton Smith, yes he's very productive and consistent but can't depend on him on run defense, so dependability is not there. So no, I wouldn't pick him with the 2nd overall. But he's a player I would consider in the end of the 1st round. Sutton Smith is underrated IMO.
Originally posted by Waterbear:Still wondering how either of you scout hard work.