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George Kittle, TE Iowa

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
No reason to force him on the field and get rid of Vance just because. Vance is without a doubt better than him right now, but Kittle could develop into a better player.

I don't think of Vance and think a blocking force.

I don't think Vance is better actually. What is he exactly better at?

He got put on the trading block for a reason.
[ Edited by JBrack on Apr 29, 2017 at 7:26 PM ]
Originally posted by JBrack:
I don't think of Vance and think a blocking force.

I don't think Vance is better actually. What is he exactly better at?

He got put on the trading block for a reason.

I haven't studied him but wasn't everyone saying his blocking was solid? And he has some big time playmaking ability.

Bad drops at times though.
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
I haven't studied him but wasn't everyone saying his blocking was solid? And he has some big time playmaking ability.

Bad drops at times though.


General manager John Lynch confirmed the 49ers indeed explored trading away tight end Vance McDonald during the draft, four months after he signed a contract extension under their former regime.

"That's the reality of new regimes coming in, new schemes," Lynch said Saturday. "That's not to say he can't fit into our scheme. Frankly we received some interest from other people, then we did explore some options throughout the league with Vance.

"And nothing ended up happening, so Vance will come back and have an opportunity to compete."

Coach Kyle Shanahan called McDonald on Friday night amid reports of trade talks, but McDonald was attending his brother's wedding and did not answer Shanahan's call. "I left a long message. He sent me a text this morning," Shanahan said. "We're all good and will talk in person (Monday)."

"We want Vance here," Shanahan added. "All the guys we have here, we want here, until you can get better."

Lynch said the 49ers will welcome back McDonald "with open arms."

McDonald was a 2013 second-round draft pick who has seven career touchdowns. His December extension through 2021 that includes $9 million guaranteed. McDonald participated in this past week's voluntary minicamp.

"We took over a 2-14 team and we need to get better in every aspect," Shanahan said. "It was true with Vance. But it wasn't just Vance. We're trying any way possible to improve our team. We did it with Vance the most because a lot of people were interested in him."

Although the 49ers drafted Iowa tight end George Kittle in Saturday's fifth round, Lynch said that was not reflective of a possible McDonald trade.

Lynch estimated a quarter of the teams called the 49ers shopping players. "It's been going on for years," Lynch said. "Our big deal, Kyle and I, was we are always going to be up front with players. Guys understand this is a business."
Originally posted by JBrack:
General manager John Lynch confirmed the 49ers indeed explored trading away tight end Vance McDonald during the draft, four months after he signed a contract extension under their former regime.

"That's the reality of new regimes coming in, new schemes," Lynch said Saturday. "That's not to say he can't fit into our scheme. Frankly we received some interest from other people, then we did explore some options throughout the league with Vance.

"And nothing ended up happening, so Vance will come back and have an opportunity to compete."

Coach Kyle Shanahan called McDonald on Friday night amid reports of trade talks, but McDonald was attending his brother's wedding and did not answer Shanahan's call. "I left a long message. He sent me a text this morning," Shanahan said. "We're all good and will talk in person (Monday)."

"We want Vance here," Shanahan added. "All the guys we have here, we want here, until you can get better."

Lynch said the 49ers will welcome back McDonald "with open arms."

McDonald was a 2013 second-round draft pick who has seven career touchdowns. His December extension through 2021 that includes $9 million guaranteed. McDonald participated in this past week's voluntary minicamp.

"We took over a 2-14 team and we need to get better in every aspect," Shanahan said. "It was true with Vance. But it wasn't just Vance. We're trying any way possible to improve our team. We did it with Vance the most because a lot of people were interested in him."

Although the 49ers drafted Iowa tight end George Kittle in Saturday's fifth round, Lynch said that was not reflective of a possible McDonald trade.

Lynch estimated a quarter of the teams called the 49ers shopping players. "It's been going on for years," Lynch said. "Our big deal, Kyle and I, was we are always going to be up front with players. Guys understand this is a business."

Yea I read that already. Figured they don't see the upside in him and don't see him worth that contract at all. Kittle can end up being a better player but if you had to roll with one for this season, 32 outta 32 teams would pick Vance
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Yea I read that already. Figured they don't see the upside in him and don't see him worth that contract at all. Kittle can end up being a better player but if you had to roll with one for this season, 32 outta 32 teams would pick Vance

Maybe, but most teams value the pass over the run. Not this team
Originally posted by JBrack:
Maybe, but most teams value the pass over the run. Not this team

Didn't Shanny pick Jordan reed?
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Didn't Shanny pick Jordan reed?

He was an OC not a GM or coach. He didn't pick anyone.
[ Edited by JBrack on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:25 PM ]
Originally posted by JBrack:
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Didn't Shanny pick Jordan reed?

He was an OC not a GM or coach. He didn't pick anyone.

Yesterday there were reports that he pushed for Jordan Reed back in Washington and might be looking for a similar playmaker.
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Yesterday there were reports that he pushed for Jordan Reed back in Washington and might be looking for a similar playmaker.

He was asked who he wanted out of x,y,z. He certainly didn't pick anyone though. Big difference.
[ Edited by JBrack on Apr 29, 2017 at 8:32 PM ]
Originally posted by JBrack:
He was asked who he wanted out of x,y,z. He certainly didn't pick anyone though. Big difference.



"The 49ers are thinking hard about drafting a TE today. Kyle Shanahan picked Jordan Reed with the Redskins in round 3. SF needs a playmake"

-Kevin jones from knbr


https://mobile.twitter.com/Mr_KevinJones/status/858024503728910336

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
"The 49ers are thinking hard about drafting a TE today. Kyle Shanahan picked Jordan Reed with the Redskins in round 3. SF needs a playmake"

-Kevin jones from knbr


https://mobile.twitter.com/Mr_KevinJones/status/858024503728910336

It was his pick, not his pick. He had limited choices. He might have picked someone entirely different if it was actually his decision, which it wasn't.
Originally posted by JBrack:
It was his pick, not his pick. He had limited choices. He might have picked someone entirely different if it was actually his decision, which it wasn't.

How do you know?
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
How do you know?

Because he doesn't have that authority or responsibility. Are you really asking me why an OC has no say so in the final decision?
Originally posted by JBrack:
Because he doesn't have that authority or responsibility. Are you really asking me why an OC has no say so in the final decision?


Lol they valued his opinion , maybe he pushed for it. They trust him and they got Reed. Why is that so unbelievable ?
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Lol they valued his opinion , maybe he pushed for it. They trust him and they got Reed. Why is that so unbelievable ?

They didn't want rg3 either reportedly. Did they value his and his dads opinion then?
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