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NT Vita Vea - Washington - 6'5" - 332

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Originally posted by JustinNiner:
i dont know if he would play enough to warrant a high 1st. Mitchell and Jones are enough to go into 2018 with

He does not fit our scheme, and with the amount of talent coming out at DT next year, id be very very very upset with this pick.

True. This is a tremendous draft for interior d-line and some nice edge prospects. We can certainly fill things out in later rounds.
Originally posted by Dillesq:
True. This is a tremendous draft for interior d-line and some nice edge prospects. We can certainly fill things out in later rounds.

I was speaking on the 2019 draft but yes, DT1T is something we should only address in the later rounds this year, if at all.
So uh he plays special teams and ran down a receiver...
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
So uh he plays special teams and ran down a receiver...

He's a freak on nature
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
So uh he plays special teams and ran down a receiver...

He's a freak on nature

Yeah, that was cool to watch. He is extremely athletic and I think he'd be amazing at Nose for us, unfortunately a 1 gap Nose is very easy to fill. Earl Mitchell is good enough and DJ Jones looks the part as well.
In a report for Pro Football Focus, Jordan Plocher says that Washington junior DL Vita Vea could be the next Haloti Ngata at the next level.

It's lofty praise for Vea, as Ngota was one of the best defensive tackles for a long time, and still is a productive player for the Lions. "With similar builds, foot quickness, playing strength, run-defense prowess, ability to generate an interior pass-rush and to line up at different spots on the defensive line, the Haloti Ngata-to-Vita Vea comparison is a fair one," Plocher writes. "It would be well within reason to expect a similar type of rookie production from Vea as we saw from Ngata in his rookie season in 2007." It'd be fair to say any team would sign up for that production, and it's why he could go in the first ten picks comes the 2018 draft.


I could see him going top 10
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
In a report for Pro Football Focus, Jordan Plocher says that Washington junior DL Vita Vea could be the next Haloti Ngata at the next level.

It's lofty praise for Vea, as Ngota was one of the best defensive tackles for a long time, and still is a productive player for the Lions. "With similar builds, foot quickness, playing strength, run-defense prowess, ability to generate an interior pass-rush and to line up at different spots on the defensive line, the Haloti Ngata-to-Vita Vea comparison is a fair one," Plocher writes. "It would be well within reason to expect a similar type of rookie production from Vea as we saw from Ngata in his rookie season in 2007." It'd be fair to say any team would sign up for that production, and it's why he could go in the first ten picks comes the 2018 draft.


I could see him going top 10

I don't think he will go top 10, but is a top 10 talent. I love the kid and made the same analysis and comp with Ngata last month. Hurdles piles, runs down plays from the backside, super agile for a 330 pounder, really strong and able to hold up against double teams. Can play him anywhere along a 3-4 front and both interior positions in a 4-3. Wait until the field drills at the combine. He is going to blow people away with his ability to move with fluidity, change direction and more. To me, he is a combo of Ngata and Poe.

If Wilkins comes out, we have a superstar laden group of DTs in this draft with Payne, Vea, Wilkins and Hurst. All are going to have outstanding NFL careers
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I don't think he will go top 10, but is a top 10 talent. I love the kid and made the same analysis and comp with Ngata last month. Hurdles piles, runs down plays from the backside, super agile for a 330 pounder, really strong and able to hold up against double teams. Can play him anywhere along a 3-4 front and both interior positions in a 4-3. Wait until the field drills at the combine. He is going to blow people away with his ability to move with fluidity, change direction and more. To me, he is a combo of Ngata and Poe.

If Wilkins comes out, we have a superstar laden group of DTs in this draft with Payne, Vea, Wilkins and Hurst. All are going to have outstanding NFL careers

I agree, it almost sucks that we don't really need one.

I think we'll be just fine with Mitchell and DJ Jones, and obviously Buck is a star.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I agree, it almost sucks that we don't really need one.

I think we'll be just fine with Mitchell and DJ Jones, and obviously Buck is a star.

All 32 teams could use a Haloti Ngata type player. They don't come around very often.

Vea is climbing up to the top of my wish list.

Washington DT Vita Vea
Player comp: Haloti Ngata 
I was scouting the West Coast for the Ravens when we drafted Ngata. He had rare size and agility. I think Vea is a more explosive version of Ngata. That's a scary thought.

Daniel Jeremiah.

Imagine a Dline of:

5T- Solomon Thomas / Elvis Dumervil
NT- Vita Vea / Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Ziggy Ansah

Oh. My. God.

I would think with that front and Reuben running around free we would have the leagues top run D.
[ Edited by SteveYoung on Jan 16, 2018 at 2:06 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
All 32 teams could use a Haloti Ngata type player. They don't come around very often.

Vea is climbing up to the top of my wish list.


Imagine a Dline of:

5T- Solomon Thomas / Elvis Dumervil
NT- Vita Vea / Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Ziggy Ansah

Oh. My. God.

I would think with that front and Reuben running around free we would have the leagues top run D.

I hear you, and yes that would be terrifying for opposing teams, however when building a team you build in positions that are easy (and therefore cheap) to fill. In our D our 1 gap NT is one such position, play 2 downs and just penetrate your gap.

If you fill one of these positions with a top 10 player you need to make a different position easier, and it unbalances your structure. This is one of the main reasons The Pats and Steelers have had consistent success.
[ Edited by 49erBigMac on Jan 16, 2018 at 4:19 PM ]

if we were a 3-4 team i would be all over this dude. but we have enough interior players and we need an edge.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I hear you, and yes that would be terrifying for opposing teams, however when building a team you build in positions that are easy (and therefore cheap) to fill. In our D our 1 gap NT is one such position, play 2 downs and just penetrate your gap.

If you fill one of these positions with a top 10 player you need to make a different position easier, and it unbalances your structure. This is one of the main reasons The Pats and Steelers have had consistent success.

Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork say hello.
[ Edited by SteveYoung on Jan 16, 2018 at 5:26 PM ]
There is literally no way I'm passing on a Haloti Ngata clone. None.

He was the most dominant player in the game for a decade and is still a very solid player for Detroit.
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
I agree, it almost sucks that we don't really need one.

I think we'll be just fine with Mitchell and DJ Jones, and obviously Buck is a star.

All 32 teams could use a Haloti Ngata type player. They don't come around very often.

Vea is climbing up to the top of my wish list.

Washington DT Vita Vea
Player comp: Haloti Ngata 
I was scouting the West Coast for the Ravens when we drafted Ngata. He had rare size and agility. I think Vea is a more explosive version of Ngata. That's a scary thought.

Daniel Jeremiah.

Imagine a Dline of:

5T- Solomon Thomas / Elvis Dumervil
NT- Vita Vea / Sheldon Day
3T- Deforest Buckner
LEO- Ziggy Ansah

Oh. My. God.

I would think with that front and Reuben running around free we would have the leagues top run D.

Nice line for 2 downs, but I think Saleh is focused on improving the pass rush and he wants Buckner/Thomas inside on pass downs.

Not saying we couldn't find a spot for Vea, but I don't think he's what they're looking for. All speculation of course.
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
There is literally no way I'm passing on a Haloti Ngata clone. None.

He was the most dominant player in the game for a decade and is still a very solid player for Detroit.

It will be interesting to see if we show any interest in him come the combine. We all know AA most likely has one foot out the door, but it would also tell you that they feel Solly or even Defo can line up outside and still be effective on 3rd down because you don't draft Vea in the top 10 and not have him be a 3 down lineman.

The weird thing is it could work having all 3 play on passing downs. You would just need a legit edge rushing terror lined up with them. We find that guy through free agency and I'm ok with selecting Vea if they feel he's too damn good to pass up.
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