Tavon Austin in the 1st

Originally posted by GNielsen:
I don't think they just need depth. I think they need another impact defensive lineman to start immediately rotating with Justin Smith AND depth. And I think they need a starting-quality safety. If there is one there in round three, that's great, but I'm skeptical. But really, it's not like I'd be disappointed or anything if they feel they need to go for Austin. I agree that he's probably going to be fantastic at the next level. What I don't agree with is this idea that you draft Austin as an answer to Harvin. That's not the way it works. You draft a quick, physical corner or a safety as an answer to Percy Harvin. You've got to cover him on defense. Offense is irrelevant when you're planning for Percy Harvin.

I see your point. But I don't see Austin as an answer to Harvin. We have more opponents than the seahawks. Adding another dimension to the offense will make the team even deadlier. And as for your concern on drafting a db to answer Harvin. I would take a look at TJ McDonald, Jamar Taylor, Jordan Poyer, Darius Slay, or David Amerson. These guys are 2-4th round prospects that have potential to be very special.

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Originally posted by GNielsen:
I don't think they just need depth. I think they need another impact defensive lineman to start immediately rotating with Justin Smith AND depth. And I think they need a starting-quality safety. If there is one there in round three, that's great, but I'm skeptical. But really, it's not like I'd be disappointed or anything if they feel they need to go for Austin. I agree that he's probably going to be fantastic at the next level. What I don't agree with is this idea that you draft Austin as an answer to Harvin. That's not the way it works. You draft a quick, physical corner or a safety as an answer to Percy Harvin. You've got to cover him on defense. Offense is irrelevant when you're planning for Percy Harvin.

I see your point. But I don't see Austin as an answer to Harvin. We have more opponents than the seahawks. Adding another dimension to the offense will make the team even deadlier. And as for your concern on drafting a db to answer Harvin. I would take a look at TJ McDonald, Jamar Taylor, Jordan Poyer, Darius Slay, or David Amerson. These guys are 2-4th round prospects that have potential to be very special.

A big corner will solve Harvin? Actually a smaller corner would imo Amendola beat our CBs all day especially Rogers who is very physical. We need a quick/fast CB Best cover corner in this draft is Robert Alford (2nd) imo but Mathieu (4th) would be a good pick in the later rounds he is just feisty and get under WRs skins.

According to Barrows, the Niners have set up a meeting with Tavon Austin, so maybe some of you will get your wish. I think it's a classic HarBaalke head fake, but we'll see.

Why do people keep talking about impact Dlinemen... no D lineman drafted at 31 would be able to start anywhere other than NT. Austin would make an impact everywhere. He ran 4.3s on what is turning out to be some slow turf in Indy. With the emphasis on special teams this offseason, it wouldnt surprise me if we swapped with the bears if Austin falls to 20.

Originally posted by 5280High:
Why do people keep talking about impact Dlinemen... no D lineman drafted at 31 would be able to start anywhere other than NT. Austin would make an impact everywhere. He ran 4.3s on what is turning out to be some slow turf in Indy. With the emphasis on special teams this offseason, it wouldnt surprise me if we swapped with the bears if Austin falls to 20.

I'm not sure where you got that. This draft is so deep that some draft watchers think there will be d-linemen taken in the 2nd round who will start right away and make an impact. Greg Cosell recently said the Niners can probably get an impact D lineman to start in the rotation immediately with their third pick. At 31 or 34 they can get Datone Jones, a DE most people think can start right away. Or, they could probably get Margus Hunt with their own later 2nd rounder, a 6'8", 280 lb. DE with a non-stop motor that most people think can step right into almost any rotation. And, there are lots of starting-caliber safeties in that pick range.

But, even though I think they need to work on their defense, I wouldn't be upset or anything if they went for Austin. He's definitely an exciting player and they'd have a return man who could take it to the house at any time from anywhere on the field. The draft is so deep with defense that HarBaalke might feel they can get good defensive value at lower rounds. If that's the case, maybe we will see them trade up past the Vikings to take Austin because if he's there at 23 or 25, he definitely won't get past the Vikings. They just got rid of their malcontent who is basically the same kind of player.

Originally posted by GNielsen:

Originally posted by 5280High:
Why do people keep talking about impact Dlinemen... no D lineman drafted at 31 would be able to start anywhere other than NT. Austin would make an impact everywhere. He ran 4.3s on what is turning out to be some slow turf in Indy. With the emphasis on special teams this offseason, it wouldnt surprise me if we swapped with the bears if Austin falls to 20.

I'm not sure where you got that. This draft is so deep that some draft watchers think there will be d-linemen taken in the 2nd round who will start right away and make an impact. Greg Cosell recently said the Niners can probably get an impact D lineman to start in the rotation immediately with their third pick. At 31 or 34 they can get Datone Jones, a DE most people think can start right away. Or, they could probably get Margus Hunt with their own later 2nd rounder, a 6'8", 280 lb. DE with a non-stop motor that most people think can step right into almost any rotation. And, there are lots of starting-caliber safeties in that pick range.

But, even though I think they need to work on their defense, I wouldn't be upset or anything if they went for Austin. He's definitely an exciting player and they'd have a return man who could take it to the house at any time from anywhere on the field. The draft is so deep with defense that HarBaalke might feel they can get good defensive value at lower rounds. If that's the case, maybe we will see them trade up past the Vikings to take Austin because if he's there at 23 or 25, he definitely won't get past the Vikings. They just got rid of their malcontent who is basically the same kind of player.

I think we agree, maybe its just a few posters making allot of posts but some seem intent on drafting a DE at 31 to replace Smith even though that player would play very little in his first two years compared to other guys mentioned like Austin who would be on the field all the time for special teams or Eifert (although unlikely he falls) who would play 40-50% of the offensive snaps and be a beast in the redzone.

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by GNielsen:

Originally posted by 5280High:
Why do people keep talking about impact Dlinemen... no D lineman drafted at 31 would be able to start anywhere other than NT. Austin would make an impact everywhere. He ran 4.3s on what is turning out to be some slow turf in Indy. With the emphasis on special teams this offseason, it wouldnt surprise me if we swapped with the bears if Austin falls to 20.

I'm not sure where you got that. This draft is so deep that some draft watchers think there will be d-linemen taken in the 2nd round who will start right away and make an impact. Greg Cosell recently said the Niners can probably get an impact D lineman to start in the rotation immediately with their third pick. At 31 or 34 they can get Datone Jones, a DE most people think can start right away. Or, they could probably get Margus Hunt with their own later 2nd rounder, a 6'8", 280 lb. DE with a non-stop motor that most people think can step right into almost any rotation. And, there are lots of starting-caliber safeties in that pick range.

But, even though I think they need to work on their defense, I wouldn't be upset or anything if they went for Austin. He's definitely an exciting player and they'd have a return man who could take it to the house at any time from anywhere on the field. The draft is so deep with defense that HarBaalke might feel they can get good defensive value at lower rounds. If that's the case, maybe we will see them trade up past the Vikings to take Austin because if he's there at 23 or 25, he definitely won't get past the Vikings. They just got rid of their malcontent who is basically the same kind of player.

I think we agree, maybe its just a few posters making allot of posts but some seem intent on drafting a DE at 31 to replace Smith even though that player would play very little in his first two years compared to other guys mentioned like Austin who would be on the field all the time for special teams or Eifert (although unlikely he falls) who would play 40-50% of the offensive snaps and be a beast in the redzone.

Yea alot of people are worried more about our defense but they forget our DL additions no starter needed there just depth. FS is probably are real need but 6 FS can start from day 1 as reported. Austin is the most dynamic player is this draft and with our pistol offense he would be dynamic in space and ohh yea a punt return specialist as well!

Originally posted by GNielsen:
According to Barrows, the Niners have set up a meeting with Tavon Austin, so maybe some of you will get your wish. I think it's a classic HarBaalke head fake, but we'll see.

Lord my wish is for the 49ers to draft Tavon Austin! Please

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
yes Austin is ligit we have 2 big receiver (crabs and Boldin) i like austin lets get him!!!

Crabs N boldin are 6'1 average not bigg we need 6'3 - 6'4 guys to help push back them giants Seahawks have at CB ...

You don't beat size with size.

If you want someone who will beat Seattle's big DBs, you burn them with speed.

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
yes Austin is ligit we have 2 big receiver (crabs and Boldin) i like austin lets get him!!!

Crabs N boldin are 6'1 average not bigg we need 6'3 - 6'4 guys to help push back them giants Seahawks have at CB ...

You don't beat size with size.

If you want someone who will beat Seattle's big DBs, you burn them with speed.

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Originally posted by ninerfan1984:
yes Austin is ligit we have 2 big receiver (crabs and Boldin) i like austin lets get him!!!

Crabs N boldin are 6'1 average not bigg we need 6'3 - 6'4 guys to help push back them giants Seahawks have at CB ...

You don't beat size with size.

If you want someone who will beat Seattle's big DBs, you burn them with speed.

Exactly, you cant press austin if he is lined up as a wing in our diamond formation... good luck to any DB trying to cover him with a free release.

Exactly u beat size and physicality with speed we will move up to get uastin

Originally posted by 5280High:

Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:

Originally posted by 49erRider:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Originally posted by ninerfan1984:

yes Austin is ligit we have 2 big receiver (crabs and Boldin) i like austin lets get him!!!

Crabs N boldin are 6'1 average not bigg we need 6'3 - 6'4 guys to help push back them giants Seahawks have at CB ...

You don't beat size with size.

If you want someone who will beat Seattle's big DBs, you burn them with speed.

Exactly, you cant press austin if he is lined up as a wing in our diamond formation... good luck to any DB trying to cover him with a free release.

Say all u want but my thinking hasn't N wont change NO MIDGET WR.....but please keep wasting time typing out whatever u want ...

doesnt that leave us with to many WR?

Reggie Bush and Crabs are the only two other players I REALLY wanted. I want Austin just as bad.