Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Not fair in this case. He is a similar situation to Megatron, in that the extremely-limited passing offense he was in left a lot of questions about his game. He is a committed, determined blocker, which we KNOW because GT uses their WRs more like wide tackles. No one knew how well he would run his routes and catch the short-intermediate routes because he never did that at GT. Just like CJ, he will be a pick based on physical potential, more than production. You don't get to move your pick to where the guy is supposed to go, with an agreement from the other teams not to take him early. Now, I'm certainly not calling this guy Calvin Johnson, but the situation is similar, and the physical potential is very impressive. As a GM, if you feel he is a must-have, you need to take him when he is available. If he is just another prospect, you wait and hope he falls. He seems to have all of the traits that a team would look for, other than statistical production and experience in a diverse route tree. I would love to come away w/Fleener and Hill/Streeter/Quick somehow. I just don't know how realistic that will be (esp regarding Hill right now) after today.
Nope. Not at all true. I knew someone was going to say this. Paul Johnson was NOT at Georgia Tech when Calvin Johnson was there. Paul Johnson was at Navy.
Calvin Johnson did NOT play in a triple option offense in college. Not even close. Calvin Johnson was incredibly productive in college.
Stephen Hill, in his most productive season, caught 28 balls for 820 yards and 5 TDs.
Calvin Johnson, in his most productive season at GT, caught 76 balls for 1202 yards and 15 TDs.
There is no basis for comparison between Calvin Johnson and Stephen Hill other than the fact they're both tall, fast, and played at Georgia Tech.
Hill's 29 yard average is impressive regardless. It nearly doubles that of Megatron.
According to the SR/College Football, 2006 Heisman Trophy Voting (
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/heisman-2006.html)
Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech, 76 Rec, 1202 Yds,
15.8 Avg, 15 TD
According to ESPN (
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/483021/stephen-hill)
Stephen Hill,
2011: 28 Rec, 820 Yds,
29.3 Avg, 5 TDs
2010: 15 Rec, 291 Yds,
19.4 Avg, 3 TDs
2009: 6 Rec, 137 Yds,
22.8 Avg, 1 TD
Calvin Johnson
Pre-2007 draft measureables
6 ft 5 in, 239 lb
40-yd dash, Vert, Broad
4.35, 42.5 in, 11 ft 7 in
All from NFL Combine, except vertical and broad jump (which are from Georgia Tech pro day).