Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Belcher I don't think is that big. Did a little more reading and it looks like he's actually a shade under 6-3. More like McNutt size.
nvm then
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Belcher I don't think is that big. Did a little more reading and it looks like he's actually a shade under 6-3. More like McNutt size.
Originally posted by Izyniner:
Thats what cought my eye with Tuinei at 6-5 he can get up and get it. Not comparing him to C. Johnson but the difference his hieght makes is huge. something this team does not have.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Gerell Robinson from ASU is a candidate. He should measure 6-4 (some sites list him as 6'3). I think his deep speed is very sub par, and he won't be a deep threat. But I like his physicality that he brings, and his football IQ is pretty good (played QB in high school). I think his best football is still ahead of him and he is a raw prospect, still learning the WR position. I don't really know who I'd compare Robinson to.
Rishard Matthews is another guy (form Nevada) that is flying under the radar. He will have great YAC, great hands, great route running.
T.Y. Hilton is of course a name most people are familiar with, should be a great pickup in the mid rounds. He is a Donnie Avery with even more talent.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Gerell Robinson from ASU is a candidate. He should measure 6-4 (some sites list him as 6'3). I think his deep speed is very sub par, and he won't be a deep threat. But I like his physicality that he brings, and his football IQ is pretty good (played QB in high school). I think his best football is still ahead of him and he is a raw prospect, still learning the WR position. I don't really know who I'd compare Robinson to.
Rishard Matthews is another guy (form Nevada) that is flying under the radar. He will have great YAC, great hands, great route running.
T.Y. Hilton is of course a name most people are familiar with, should be a great pickup in the mid rounds. He is a Donnie Avery with even more talent.
Robinson has good size, but I notice he is not exactly quick or fast either. His strength allows him to get RAC, and size helps him some on jump balls but I don't see him as a guy who will develop into a starter in the NFL. I could be wrong, but that's my first impression from what I've seen of Gerrell. I think he'll measure in around 6-3.
As far as late round guys, I see two poor-man's Crabtree type of players. Matthews, as you mentioned, and Jordan White of Western Michigan. Others who could be late-round steals are:
Devon Wylie, Fresno St. -- potential NFL slot man.
Greg Childs, Arkansas -- If he ever gets back to his pre-injury form, he will be a starting NFL WR. NFL size and playmaking ability.
Juron Criner, Arizona -- In the right system, he could be a productive player.
Chris Summers, Liberty -- He may not get drafted, but with fantastic workouts, he could. He has NFL size at 6-3 212 and was very productive, putting up back to back 1000+ yard seasons, including an awesome 15 TD season last year despite missing a game.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Gerell Robinson from ASU is a candidate. He should measure 6-4 (some sites list him as 6'3). I think his deep speed is very sub par, and he won't be a deep threat. But I like his physicality that he brings, and his football IQ is pretty good (played QB in high school). I think his best football is still ahead of him and he is a raw prospect, still learning the WR position. I don't really know who I'd compare Robinson to.
Rishard Matthews is another guy (form Nevada) that is flying under the radar. He will have great YAC, great hands, great route running.
T.Y. Hilton is of course a name most people are familiar with, should be a great pickup in the mid rounds. He is a Donnie Avery with even more talent.
Robinson has good size, but I notice he is not exactly quick or fast either. His strength allows him to get RAC, and size helps him some on jump balls but I don't see him as a guy who will develop into a starter in the NFL. I could be wrong, but that's my first impression from what I've seen of Gerrell. I think he'll measure in around 6-3.
As far as late round guys, I see two poor-man's Crabtree type of players. Matthews, as you mentioned, and Jordan White of Western Michigan. Others who could be late-round steals are:
Devon Wylie, Fresno St. -- potential NFL slot man.
Greg Childs, Arkansas -- If he ever gets back to his pre-injury form, he will be a starting NFL WR. NFL size and playmaking ability.
Juron Criner, Arizona -- In the right system, he could be a productive player.
Chris Summers, Liberty -- He may not get drafted, but with fantastic workouts, he could. He has NFL size at 6-3 212 and was very productive, putting up back to back 1000+ yard seasons, including an awesome 15 TD season last year despite missing a game.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Gerell Robinson from ASU is a candidate. He should measure 6-4 (some sites list him as 6'3). I think his deep speed is very sub par, and he won't be a deep threat. But I like his physicality that he brings, and his football IQ is pretty good (played QB in high school). I think his best football is still ahead of him and he is a raw prospect, still learning the WR position. I don't really know who I'd compare Robinson to.
Rishard Matthews is another guy (form Nevada) that is flying under the radar. He will have great YAC, great hands, great route running.
T.Y. Hilton is of course a name most people are familiar with, should be a great pickup in the mid rounds. He is a Donnie Avery with even more talent.
Robinson has good size, but I notice he is not exactly quick or fast either. His strength allows him to get RAC, and size helps him some on jump balls but I don't see him as a guy who will develop into a starter in the NFL. I could be wrong, but that's my first impression from what I've seen of Gerrell. I think he'll measure in around 6-3.
As far as late round guys, I see two poor-man's Crabtree type of players. Matthews, as you mentioned, and Jordan White of Western Michigan. Others who could be late-round steals are:
Devon Wylie, Fresno St. -- potential NFL slot man.
Greg Childs, Arkansas -- If he ever gets back to his pre-injury form, he will be a starting NFL WR. NFL size and playmaking ability.
Juron Criner, Arizona -- In the right system, he could be a productive player.
Chris Summers, Liberty -- He may not get drafted, but with fantastic workouts, he could. He has NFL size at 6-3 212 and was very productive, putting up back to back 1000+ yard seasons, including an awesome 15 TD season last year despite missing a game.
How can you label Criner a steal and criticize Robinson for lack of burst/speed? Its not just the homerism in me, but I'm POSITIVE Robinson will run a better 40 then Criner and display more quickness than Criner in work outs.
Here is a good read on Criner (Wes Bunting)
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Is-Arizona-WR-Juron-Criner-a-big-time-wide-out-prospect.html
The reason why I think Robinson has a future and Criner doesn't, is Robinson showed excellent talent at beating zone coverage and making the right reads, which is why he exploded in production his SR year. Later rounders make it in the NFL for two reasons 1) ridiculous athleticism or 2) amazing football IQ with great work ethic. I think Robinson fits into #2. Having said that. I don't think Robinson will ever be a #1 or #2 WR, at best he will be a #3 WR that is a situational weapon. Robinson won't be the outside WR most teams try to turn 6-3+ WR's into, but I think a smart coach will see his ability to work the slot.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I'm going to throw a couple injured players your way:
1) Ryan Broyles is going to be a late-round draftee, at best. His size/speed combination is not very good, and he is going to be out some time due to his ACL, but we are talking about the all-time NCAA receptions leader. I see a guy who has outstanding football awareness/IQ and someone to keep in the back of your mind, even if he is not fully recovered to play until Week Six. Last year, in my draft, I had Marcus Cannon as a 4th round selectee (the Pats grabbed him in Round 5), and he has been a nice mid-season addition to the NE roster, and may be the guy to replace Brian Waters.
2) Chris Owusu- He is one more concussion away from being sent to goofyland, but he was invited to the combine, and he understands Harbaugh's offense and system. Probably not a player I would draft, but someone to maybe target as a priority free agent to compete for the fifth WR position on the roster, as he adds special teams value.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by MadDog49er:I'm going to throw a couple injured players your way:
1) Ryan Broyles is going to be a late-round draftee, at best. His size/speed combination is not very good, and he is going to be out some time due to his ACL, but we are talking about the all-time NCAA receptions leader. I see a guy who has outstanding football awareness/IQ and someone to keep in the back of your mind, even if he is not fully recovered to play until Week Six. Last year, in my draft, I had Marcus Cannon as a 4th round selectee (the Pats grabbed him in Round 5), and he has been a nice mid-season addition to the NE roster, and may be the guy to replace Brian Waters.
2) Chris Owusu- He is one more concussion away from being sent to goofyland, but he was invited to the combine, and he understands Harbaugh's offense and system. Probably not a player I would draft, but someone to maybe target as a priority free agent to compete for the fifth WR position on the roster, as he adds special teams value.
I was a fan of Owusu, but worry about all those concussions
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I'm going to throw a couple injured players your way:
1) Ryan Broyles is going to be a late-round draftee, at best. His size/speed combination is not very good, and he is going to be out some time due to his ACL, but we are talking about the all-time NCAA receptions leader. I see a guy who has outstanding football awareness/IQ and someone to keep in the back of your mind, even if he is not fully recovered to play until Week Six. Last year, in my draft, I had Marcus Cannon as a 4th round selectee (the Pats grabbed him in Round 5), and he has been a nice mid-season addition to the NE roster, and may be the guy to replace Brian Waters.
2) Chris Owusu- He is one more concussion away from being sent to goofyland, but he was invited to the combine, and he understands Harbaugh's offense and system. Probably not a player I would draft, but someone to maybe target as a priority free agent to compete for the fifth WR position on the roster, as he adds special teams value.
I was a fan of Owusu, but worry about all those concussions
Yes, it's true. Owusu at this point is too much of a risk I believe for a team to draft him. He will be a Priority UDFA since there is really no risk there, and all reward if he pans out. But still, I have read that his football career may already be over. There are concerns that he will never be able to play again due to the risk of becoming a vegetable with one more concussion.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
LaVon Brazill - 5'11/191 - Ohio
TJ Graham - 6'0/185 - NC State
Nelson Rosario - 6'5/219 - UCLA
Kamar Jorden - 6'3/200 - Bowling Green
Jarius Wright - 5'10/180 - Arkansas
Thomas Mayo - 6'2/200 - California(PA)
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
LaVon Brazill - 5'11/191 - Ohio
TJ Graham - 6'0/185 - NC State
Nelson Rosario - 6'5/219 - UCLA
Kamar Jorden - 6'3/200 - Bowling Green
Jarius Wright - 5'10/180 - Arkansas
Thomas Mayo - 6'2/200 - California(PA)
You're crazy if you consider Wright a late round or day 3 prospect, he'll be gone before the 4th round is over.