Everyone always says you take the bpa over the need, unless its very close, in which case the need becomes a stronger factor.
What do you think are the 5 biggest needs on the niners in order of priority?
My take:
1 OT
2 CB
3 FS
4 WR
5 OLB
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Mar 30, 2010 at 9:42 AM
- calbear
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Mar 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM
- 9erred
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OT
KR
Punt Returner
OLB who can rush the qb
FS
CB
KR
Punt Returner
OLB who can rush the qb
FS
CB
Mar 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM
- YourHuckleberry
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1. OG
2. OT
3. KR/PR
4. S
5. CB
2. OT
3. KR/PR
4. S
5. CB
Mar 30, 2010 at 9:50 AM
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We dont have any real CBs on the roster after Spencer and Clements.
The rest are not ready to garner significant playing time.
A KR/PR can be found later in the draft, in FA, or hopefully in the form of a nickel or dime corner that is already on the roster.
I actually find it odd that we have trouble finding someone who can return kicks/punts. Last season we had trouble since we cut our returner mid season. But its really not that hard to find a returner in the NFL.
The rest are not ready to garner significant playing time.
A KR/PR can be found later in the draft, in FA, or hopefully in the form of a nickel or dime corner that is already on the roster.
I actually find it odd that we have trouble finding someone who can return kicks/punts. Last season we had trouble since we cut our returner mid season. But its really not that hard to find a returner in the NFL.
Mar 30, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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OT
OLB passrusher
OG
p/kr
CB
S
NT
OLB passrusher
OG
p/kr
CB
S
NT
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
1. OG
2. OT
3. KR/PR
4. S
5. CB
If you watched the games last year, there is no way in heck that OG is a higher need than RT. You must be an Iupati fan.
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM
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OT
CB
SS
PR/KR
ILB
OG
CB
SS
PR/KR
ILB
OG
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by foreign49er:
OT
CB
SS
PR/KR
ILB
OG
You are entitled to your opinion, which is all this thread is, of course. But I would be interested in hearing your justification for setting OG (replacing Baas asap) behind ILB (Spikes next year which may be covered by McKillop.
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by English:Originally posted by foreign49er:
OT
CB
SS
PR/KR
ILB
OG
You are entitled to your opinion, which is all this thread is, of course. But I would be interested in hearing your justification for setting OG (replacing Baas asap) behind ILB (Spikes next year which may be covered by McKillop.
I think Baas' play will be vastly improved this year. He's always had the physical tools he's just lacked technique and concentration. I think the additions of Solari and Ray Brown will nullify our immediate needs at OG. Having said that, I think Solari may want to pick somebody he can mold to replace Baas in the near future.
Spikes is probably in his last year at this caliber of play. I don't think McKillop has the talent to be a dependable starter. If he did they wouldn't have signed Wilhelm last year when Spikes went down and there wouldn't be talk of the 49ers taking McClain at #13. McK will be a solid back-up and great special teamer, he just doesn't have the physical tools to play TED imo.
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:20 AM
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I think we have 3 pressing needs
OG (because Raye loves to run up the gut, and pressure up the middle is the fastest way to blow up a play)
OT (obviously)
PR (obviously)
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After that, it's more of a depth or age issue at certain positions:
RB (need change of pace back)
S (everyone but Roman has been very injury prone the past few years, think about it...Goldson hurt 2/3 years, Reggie Smith hurt both years, Mike Lewis concussions this past year, Curtis Taylor out most of last year)
CB (lots of age here, need more speed)
OLB (depth never hurts here, premium position in 34 defense)
ILB (apparently everyone is eager to replace Spikes even though he's still playing at a very high level and only being used as a 2-down backer)
[ Edited by znk916 on Mar 30, 2010 at 10:20:54 ]
OG (because Raye loves to run up the gut, and pressure up the middle is the fastest way to blow up a play)
OT (obviously)
PR (obviously)
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After that, it's more of a depth or age issue at certain positions:
RB (need change of pace back)
S (everyone but Roman has been very injury prone the past few years, think about it...Goldson hurt 2/3 years, Reggie Smith hurt both years, Mike Lewis concussions this past year, Curtis Taylor out most of last year)
CB (lots of age here, need more speed)
OLB (depth never hurts here, premium position in 34 defense)
ILB (apparently everyone is eager to replace Spikes even though he's still playing at a very high level and only being used as a 2-down backer)
[ Edited by znk916 on Mar 30, 2010 at 10:20:54 ]
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by foreign49er:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by foreign49er:
OT
CB
SS
PR/KR
ILB
OG
You are entitled to your opinion, which is all this thread is, of course. But I would be interested in hearing your justification for setting OG (replacing Baas asap) behind ILB (Spikes next year which may be covered by McKillop.
I think Baas' play will be vastly improved this year. He's always had the physical tools he's just lacked technique and concentration. I think the additions of Solari and Ray Brown will nullify our immediate needs at OG. Having said that, I think Solari may want to pick somebody he can mold to replace Baas in the near future.
Spikes is probably in his last year at this caliber of play. I don't think McKillop has the talent to be a dependable starter. If he did they wouldn't have signed Wilhelm last year when Spikes went down and there wouldn't be talk of the 49ers taking McClain at #13. McK will be a solid back-up and great special teamer, he just doesn't have the physical tools to play TED imo.
Interesting. Thank you. As you will see from my earlier post I don't entirely agree with you on the subject of Baas! It would be nice if you were right, but I have grave doubts
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM
- Ninefan56
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My perceptions of our needs:
1. RT - Snyder must go. Snyder is at best a backup, unless Solari/Brown can find some way of improving his techinique. Willliams/Brown/Fox/Saffold
2. Speed in the backfield - CB/FS/SS - Ansa-Owusu
3. PR/KR - Anybody who is fast, who has return intincts, sure hands.
4. OLB - Need the best pass rusher we can find. I like Graham/Hughes/Misi
5. NT - Backup for Franklin
6. OG - Debatable due to so many people on the practice squad - Carter/Johnson/Jerry
7. ILB - Backup for both Willis and Spikes
8. Center - Don't know if Wallace is our guy, need to be cultivating a long term solution.
[ Edited by Ninefan56 on Mar 30, 2010 at 10:35:16 ]
1. RT - Snyder must go. Snyder is at best a backup, unless Solari/Brown can find some way of improving his techinique. Willliams/Brown/Fox/Saffold
2. Speed in the backfield - CB/FS/SS - Ansa-Owusu
3. PR/KR - Anybody who is fast, who has return intincts, sure hands.
4. OLB - Need the best pass rusher we can find. I like Graham/Hughes/Misi
5. NT - Backup for Franklin
6. OG - Debatable due to so many people on the practice squad - Carter/Johnson/Jerry
7. ILB - Backup for both Willis and Spikes
8. Center - Don't know if Wallace is our guy, need to be cultivating a long term solution.
[ Edited by Ninefan56 on Mar 30, 2010 at 10:35:16 ]
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:43 AM
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OT
PR/KR
OG
S
CB
NT, ILB, WR (tied)
PR/KR
OG
S
CB
NT, ILB, WR (tied)
Mar 30, 2010 at 10:49 AM
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Our neeeds in order of pryority
1 Creative play calling
2 RT
3 Return man
4 Safety
5 Speed / slot reciever
6 OG
7 OLB / Pass rusher
1 Creative play calling
2 RT
3 Return man
4 Safety
5 Speed / slot reciever
6 OG
7 OLB / Pass rusher
Mar 30, 2010 at 11:40 AM
- YourHuckleberry
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Originally posted by 9erred:Originally posted by YourHuckleberry:
1. OG
2. OT
3. KR/PR
4. S
5. CB
If you watched the games last year, there is no way in heck that OG is a higher need than RT. You must be an Iupati fan.
We have 2 bad guards, but only 1 bad tackle. Most of our sacks came from guys coming right through the middle of the line, and considering that we run between the tackles most of the time, we were pretty bad at it.
I still say we go OT at #13 (hopefully Trent Williams), and then Iupati at #17 or someone else in the 2nd.