What could SF get from the Ravens for a WR? | Page 3

Jul 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM

niner4life21
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Originally posted by joey82:
I love threads like this... we trade our garbage to another team for high round draft picks

Keep it up guys it never gets old.

Maybe we can trade Spencer for a 3rd oh wait that was last year

Lol, what makes anyone think that Ziegler has any trade value?

The guy with 5 catches last year?

Heck, the guys the Ravens have who they think aren't good enough had better stats than Ziggy.

Jul 29, 2009 at 1:38 PM

#32

RonMexico
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Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by joey82:
I love threads like this... we trade our garbage to another team for high round draft picks

Keep it up guys it never gets old.

Maybe we can trade Spencer for a 3rd oh wait that was last year

Lol, what makes anyone think that Ziegler has any trade value?

The guy with 5 catches last year?

Heck, the guys the Ravens have who they think aren't good enough had better stats than Ziggy.

seriously wtf

where did this Zeigler crap come from

Jul 29, 2009 at 1:55 PM

#33

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Originally posted by King49er:
I hate to break it to people, but Battle and Zeigler have absolutely ZERO trade value....especially Zeigler

You can get a 6th for Battle.

Jul 29, 2009 at 2:12 PM

#34

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Originally posted by Gelder:
Originally posted by King49er:
I hate to break it to people, but Battle and Zeigler have absolutely ZERO trade value....especially Zeigler

You can get a 6th for Battle.

Yeah i was thinking a 6 pack also. Maybe of some coronas? Nah that's to much. They'd probably give us some natural light.

Jul 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM

#35

fzrdave
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Unlike most fans, most NFL team GMs are patient and are therefore unwilling to give up something today for something they could get in a few weeks for free. So, to answer the question, nothing.

Jul 29, 2009 at 2:59 PM

#36

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How about a conditional pick based on playing time and production.

Jul 29, 2009 at 8:59 PM

#37

NickV
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Originally posted by PTulini:
Would you give up one of our 1st Round picks in next year's NFL Draft, and one of our WRs (Battle and/or Zeigler) for Ravens NT Haloti Ngata?

NT Haloti Ngata

We had our chance for Ngata. We drafted Vernon instead.

Jul 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM

#38

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Originally posted by NickV:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Would you give up one of our 1st Round picks in next year's NFL Draft, and one of our WRs (Battle and/or Zeigler) for Ravens NT Haloti Ngata?

NT Haloti Ngata

We had our chance for Ngata. We drafted Vernon instead.

i'd trade one of our picks for ngata. he's a solid NT that are hard to find in the draft

Aug 5, 2009 at 5:27 PM

#39

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Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by DANADA:
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
crabtree ziegler and battle for suggs.

just wow

That's not actually a bad idea.

A freaking OLb is not going to solve all our pass rush problems. The main thing is getting good D-Lineman who can eat up blockers. If our DL can do that, than Lawson and Haralson would do fine at OLB.

Sure, Suggs would do better than our 2 guys, but hes just not worth our 10th overall WR and two others, right now.

Suggs would be the answer to our pass rush problems, Smith has bulked up enough wit his high motor to take up blockers, Balmer or Ice will be on the other side to do a good enough job, i mean jeez Igor Or-however you spell his name is not a great DE but some how Merrieman and Phillips were ape crazy gettin sacks wit Castillo on the other side, just like wit J-Smith. Suggs is a top 5 OLB rite now MC is what hasn't played a down at WR, I'll take Suggs., as much as I love MC.

This isnt serious right?

Aug 5, 2009 at 9:55 PM

#40

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Originally posted by RichmondPete:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by King49er:
Originally posted by waiting4number6:
Originally posted by DANADA:
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
crabtree ziegler and battle for suggs.

just wow

That's not actually a bad idea.

A freaking OLb is not going to solve all our pass rush problems. The main thing is getting good D-Lineman who can eat up blockers. If our DL can do that, than Lawson and Haralson would do fine at OLB.

Sure, Suggs would do better than our 2 guys, but hes just not worth our 10th overall WR and two others, right now.

Suggs would be the answer to our pass rush problems, Smith has bulked up enough wit his high motor to take up blockers, Balmer or Ice will be on the other side to do a good enough job, i mean jeez Igor Or-however you spell his name is not a great DE but some how Merrieman and Phillips were ape crazy gettin sacks wit Castillo on the other side, just like wit J-Smith. Suggs is a top 5 OLB rite now MC is what hasn't played a down at WR, I'll take Suggs., as much as I love MC.

This isnt serious right?

I'd be semi-serious about it, I haven't heard anything from the organization about it, but with this long hold out getting longer... Who know's, maybe we can get Ngata instead haha.

Aug 6, 2009 at 1:40 AM

#41

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Originally posted by NickV:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Would you give up one of our 1st Round picks in next year's NFL Draft, and one of our WRs (Battle and/or Zeigler) for Ravens NT Haloti Ngata?

NT Haloti Ngata

We had our chance for Ngata. We drafted Vernon instead.

Yes sir.

How ironic, Ngata goes to Baltimore and Davis goes to California.

Justin Smith and Haloti Ngata, what a dream.

And if Donahue did the RIGHT thing, Wilfork would've been right in the middle.

Aug 6, 2009 at 8:17 AM

#42

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The Ravens aren't going to trade Suggs for any combination of our WR's. Get real.

And Ngata plays DE in the Ravens 34 look. Kelly Gregg plays NT for them when they two gap. I don't see the point in trading even one of our firsts next year for another 34 DE when what we really need is a stud NT.

Aug 6, 2009 at 9:22 AM

#43

ninerfan21
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Originally posted by Overkill:
The Ravens aren't going to trade Suggs for any combination of our WR's. Get real.

And Ngata plays DE in the Ravens 34 look. Kelly Gregg plays NT for them when they two gap. I don't see the point in trading even one of our firsts next year for another 34 DE when what we really need is a stud NT.

We won't be able to trade for anyone really in Balt, but Ngata would be a great 3-4 NT, the reason he is playing DE, is because Gregg does such a good job for them. it just means he's versatile.

Aug 6, 2009 at 9:39 AM

#44

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Originally posted by ninerfan21:
Originally posted by Overkill:
The Ravens aren't going to trade Suggs for any combination of our WR's. Get real.

And Ngata plays DE in the Ravens 34 look. Kelly Gregg plays NT for them when they two gap. I don't see the point in trading even one of our firsts next year for another 34 DE when what we really need is a stud NT.

We won't be able to trade for anyone really in Balt, but Ngata would be a great 3-4 NT, the reason he is playing DE, is because Gregg does such a good job for them. it just means he's versatile.

Ngata is just a more talented version of Soap. They're both extremely athletic for their size and they both look like great 34 NT's on paper, but neither has ever shown they are good at two gapping. Ngata is by far the better player, but I have never seen anything on the field that leads me to believe he would make a great 34 NT. Gregg plays with great leverage and excels at two gapping, but Ngata is at DE because that's his best fit.

Aug 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM

#45

jojomellon
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Originally posted by Overkill:
The Ravens aren't going to trade Suggs for any combination of our WR's. Get real.

And Ngata plays DE in the Ravens 34 look. Kelly Gregg plays NT for them when they two gap. I don't see the point in trading even one of our firsts next year for another 34 DE when what we really need is a stud NT.

Ngata played NT all last year while Gregg was out and was a beast.