Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by valrod33:Montana would have 1 less ring if that Bengal player doesn't drop that INT in the end zone prior to That Pass to TaylorOriginally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Stop this nonsense, Brady is the GOAT.
The GOAT doesn't need Adam Vinatieri and Russell Wilson to win him his rings. He also doesn't lose Super Bowls or throw picks in Super Bowls. Not to mention Deflategate and Spygate.
I just think it's funny that his 5th ring and 4th MVP is what made him the GOAT to people, when the Seahawks literally gifted him a ring. So the difference between Brady being the GOAT and Montana being the GOAT is a stupid goal line decision by the opposing team?
Maybe 2 if Dan Bunz and Hacksaw Reynolds dont make an amazing goal line stand in SB16. Joe was MVP in that game but he was not special.
I dont think SBs should be the only games looked at anyway when determining GOAT. What Brady is doing at age 40 is pretty fricking remarkable. I think a case can easily be made for him as GOAT.
Theres a million variables. Imagine if Montana had played in an era where the QB was protected from harm, and he and Walsh were together for 18 years. Not to mention how easy the path to the Super Bowl has been in the AFC the last 5+ years. The Patriots always draw some weak matchup in the divisional round like KC, Indy, or Houston, and then just had to take out Manning's playoff choking self in the title game. Montana had to get through the Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys, Redskins, etc. all while being brutalized.
Brady has had an incredible career, but between the tuck rule game, which would've taken away his first SB ring, Vinatieri being super clutch and nailing all his winning kicks, the Seahawks being total morons on the goal line, and even the Falcons for not burning any clock with a huge lead late, Brady's titles have been less impressive to me.
Brady has the bigger accumulation of accolades, but he isnt Joe. On the biggest stage in the biggest moments, Joe never lost. And he got there taking out some of the fiercest, most savage defenses in history, who were very much allowed to inflict bodily harm on him.
When I think about who the GOAT is, I say "what would Brady have done in the 80's?" Not a chance he accomplishes what Montana did. Ive seen games when Brady gets knocked around, and hes flustered. He isn the same guy. Montana dealt with that as a usual thing. And then Montana in this era would've been even better.
Dam! I started this thread and then even I got off track! If we are going to compare Brady & Montana in this thread, we should probably be comparing then via thier high school careers lol. Not sure how this thread turned into an argument about Jerry Rice & Joe Montana?
Serra high school is the truth! Raiders just signed a long snapper that went to Serra High School in San Mateo. The Padres are EVERYWHERE!