2013-2014 Los Angeles Kings thread

Originally posted by Niners99:
Every year 29 teams come up short. If the Braves hadnt won in 1995, nobody wouldve thought less of them for being an elite team for 15 straight years without a title. Sometimes things just dont go your way. The Sharks just need to get better on defense, and put the younger guys in leadership roles, and theyll get their Cup.

gotta disagree big time here. if you dont have the ring you dont mean a thing. people think a lot less of the bills because they didnt win. bottom line is any team with sustained success who doesnt cash in with a ring will always be thought less of in any sport.

Congrats Kings.

The best team won.
Justin Williams is a playoff HOF'er lol... dude is amazing. Enough said about Quick. Congrats and until next year....

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Every year 29 teams come up short. If the Braves hadnt won in 1995, nobody wouldve thought less of them for being an elite team for 15 straight years without a title. Sometimes things just dont go your way. The Sharks just need to get better on defense, and put the younger guys in leadership roles, and theyll get their Cup.

gotta disagree big time here. if you dont have the ring you dont mean a thing. people think a lot less of the bills because they didnt win. bottom line is any team with sustained success who doesnt cash in with a ring will always be thought less of in any sport.

word like Reids Eagles or Harbaughs 49ers

Originally posted by Overkill:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Overkill:

Originally posted by Niners99:
You cant have it both ways.

Either the Kings played incredible hockey, and fought back by overturning the momentum of the series, or the Sharks choked, and gave away the series because they fold under pressure.

Youre contradicting points otherwise. The Sharks either choked, or the Kings were incredible. Which is it?

Keep drawing up false dilemmas. You'll feel better about yourself eventually.

You still havent answered the question.

Its a false dilemma. Maybe you need to google that phrase because the answer to your "question" lies within it.

lol you dont want to answer because then you cant have it both ways. You want the Sharks to be chokers, AND the Kings to be awesome. By definition, if the Sharks did not choke, the Kings are out in the 1st round, and forgotten.

You can keep calling it a false dilemma, but it doesnt make any sense to claim both sides.

Answer it this way then. What if the Sharks had not "choked"?

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Every year 29 teams come up short. If the Braves hadnt won in 1995, nobody wouldve thought less of them for being an elite team for 15 straight years without a title. Sometimes things just dont go your way. The Sharks just need to get better on defense, and put the younger guys in leadership roles, and theyll get their Cup.

gotta disagree big time here. if you dont have the ring you dont mean a thing. people think a lot less of the bills because they didnt win. bottom line is any team with sustained success who doesnt cash in with a ring will always be thought less of in any sport.

You dont think the Braves wouldve been remembered as a good team just for winning an MLB record 11 consecutive division titles? Honestly that 1 ring doesnt really seem to bail them out of how theyre remembered. They won in 1995, and still get the Bills treatment, because people cant believe how you can get that many chances and only win once.

IMO it just means they dont get remembered as a dynasty. You cant really argue that they werent a great team in that era either way. You can just tell Braves fans the 1995 WS has an asterisk because it was a strike shortened season. lol

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Every year 29 teams come up short. If the Braves hadnt won in 1995, nobody wouldve thought less of them for being an elite team for 15 straight years without a title. Sometimes things just dont go your way. The Sharks just need to get better on defense, and put the younger guys in leadership roles, and theyll get their Cup.

gotta disagree big time here. if you dont have the ring you dont mean a thing. people think a lot less of the bills because they didnt win. bottom line is any team with sustained success who doesnt cash in with a ring will always be thought less of in any sport.

You dont think the Braves wouldve been remembered as a good team just for winning an MLB record 11 consecutive division titles? Honestly that 1 ring doesnt really seem to bail them out of how theyre remembered. They won in 1995, and still get the Bills treatment, because people cant believe how you can get that many chances and only win once.

IMO it just means they dont get remembered as a dynasty. You cant really argue that they werent a great team in that era either way. You can just tell Braves fans the 1995 WS has an asterisk because it was a strike shortened season. lol

i dont think anybody cares about teams with division titles, they just dont. you either win or your dont. this is like the seahawks in the 2000's talking about divisional titles, nobody gives a s**t. that 1 title the braves have enables their fans to tune out all of the stuff other people want to say about them. whether what they're saying is true or not doesnt matter, they'll just point to their ring that they have. if you lack that ring but have loads of divisional titles you have nothing to point to when people are going to pile on. aka the current san jose sharks.

Originally posted by Niners99:
lol you dont want to answer because then you cant have it both ways. You want the Sharks to be chokers, AND the Kings to be awesome. By definition, if the Sharks did not choke, the Kings are out in the 1st round, and forgotten.

You can keep calling it a false dilemma, but it doesnt make any sense to claim both sides.

Answer it this way then. What if the Sharks had not "choked"?

The Kings played great and deserved to win. The Sharks blew a 3-0 game lead and that's a choke. Both of those are true.

Your team lost. At least try to show some maturity & class about it.

Originally posted by Niners99:

lol you dont want to answer because then you cant have it both ways. You want the Sharks to be chokers, AND the Kings to be awesome. By definition, if the Sharks did not choke, the Kings are out in the 1st round, and forgotten.

You can keep calling it a false dilemma, but it doesnt make any sense to claim both sides.

Answer it this way then. What if the Sharks had not "choked"?

You can have it both ways. The kings raised their level of play once they were down. In fact game 3 was the turning point. Kings started playing way better, and they went to overtime were they looked dominant. Sharks literally had 1 shot on goal, unfortunately for the Kings, it was a goal. Game 4 came around and the Kings continued to play at a high level. Sharks couldn't keep up. Then Quick shut the Sharks down. At this point the Sharks were scared and everyone started to say will it happen. Sharks just got blown out. Sharks lack that killer instinct, that next level of intensity that you saw in the epic Chicago vs LA series. Joe Thornton plays scared in big games. I remember times in the series he had clear grade A looks that he passed up. When Doughty called out the Sharks, he was talking about Thornton, no doubt.

Kings turned it up, and the Sharks choked. It wasn't that they lost 4 straight, it's that they were blown out 4 straight, after blowing the kings out of the water games 1 and 2, then taking game 3.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by Niners99:

lol you dont want to answer because then you cant have it both ways. You want the Sharks to be chokers, AND the Kings to be awesome. By definition, if the Sharks did not choke, the Kings are out in the 1st round, and forgotten.

You can keep calling it a false dilemma, but it doesnt make any sense to claim both sides.

Answer it this way then. What if the Sharks had not "choked"?

You can have it both ways. The kings raised their level of play once they were down. In fact game 3 was the turning point. Kings started playing way better, and they went to overtime were they looked dominant. Sharks literally had 1 shot on goal, unfortunately for the Kings, it was a goal. Game 4 came around and the Kings continued to play at a high level. Sharks couldn't keep up. Then Quick shut the Sharks down. At this point the Sharks were scared and everyone started to say will it happen. Sharks just got blown out. Sharks lack that killer instinct, that next level of intensity that you saw in the epic Chicago vs LA series. Joe Thornton plays scared in big games. I remember times in the series he had clear grade A looks that he passed up. When Doughty called out the Sharks, he was talking about Thornton, no doubt.

Kings turned it up, and the Sharks choked. It wasn't that they lost 4 straight, it's that they were blown out 4 straight, after blowing the kings out of the water games 1 and 2, then taking game 3.

So anytime in sports that one team raises their level of play, and the other team cant keep up, the losing team "choked"? I thought that was called being outplayed..

South Park just posted this

Originally posted by Niners99:

So anytime in sports that one team raises their level of play, and the other team cant keep up, the losing team "choked"? I thought that was called being outplayed..

Basically it's both.
Choke= San Jose Sharks= big lead and lose
Clutch= Los Angeles Kings= great under extreme pressure

Originally posted by jrg:
South Park just posted this

I've seen that billboard often out here in So Cal, Dunno if Trey Parker or Matt Stone gave the green light to advertise this ad since i know they are Colorado Natives makes more sense them being Avalanche fans rather then LA fans, maybe they jumped ship?

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:

Originally posted by jrg:

South Park just posted this

I've seen that billboard often out here in So Cal, Dunno if Trey Parker or Matt Stone gave the green light to advertise this ad since i know they are Colorado Natives makes more sense them being Avalanche fans rather then LA fans, maybe they jumped ship?

Yes they authorized it,
They even took the Stanley cup to their offices

will gaborik take less mony to stay with a great team? nahhhhhhhhhhhh

Originally posted by hofer36:
will gaborik take less mony to stay with a great team? nahhhhhhhhhhhh

He surprised me. I thought he was gone for sure.

Gaborik signs 7 yr $34 Mil contract with Kings