Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 4ML:
You can make an argument that Kobe was as good a player as Jordan. Kobe did everything Jordan could do and added to it.
You can but you would lose. Without Jordan there is no Kobe as you know him and he added nothing to it. He replicated Jordan and he came close but not quite! He is not the same guy as Mike! Phil Jackson ended this debate long ago. He simply said what I saw with my own eyes and knew all along. I don't know everything but I know what I know!
LOL. Everything? hmm not sure about that
I recall vividly after the D. Piston's had beaten the Bulls in '90 ECF. MJ thought he should and could will his way to victory. He got his but he took a beating both physically, mentally and emotionally. People started wondering if he could ever lead his teams to a championship. Not the way he conducted up to that moment. ball hogging and not deferring to teammates. always wanting to take the last shot. It was that defeat in '90 when a light bulb went of in MJ's head.
The entire team needed toughening up. During that off-season he enlisted Pip to get in the gym and put on muscle mass. no more purely relying on athleticism to just get by. The minute MJ got Scottie and Horace to buy into his regimen MJ knew the rest of the team would follow. Even got the team to start eating healthy. That whole summer all they did was practice on everything. and the rest is well as they say history. during the ECF of '91 D. Pistons were shell shocked at how well MJ was playing while having the entire team involved. thus leading to Isaiah and the bad boys to walk off the court without shaking hands. MJ returned that favor by freezing IT out of the Olympics of '92. Now that's just a glimpse at what MJ did as the leader of the squad to get his teammates better.
Am not sure if Kobe did things like that to improve his surroundings. I could be wrong and perhaps one of the Laker fans can direct me to where Kobe perhaps did do such things. but then if he did it surely never materialized on the court.
HOF player. no doubt. but that's where his greatness ends.