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Official 2013-14 Los Angeles Lakers Thread
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:04 PM
- StOnEy333
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Up 9 with 5:43 to go.
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:06 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Up 9 with 5:43 to go.
Could be the biggest upset of the year. Winning in Portland is VERY impressive with this collection of players.
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:09 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by StOnEy333:Up 9 with 5:43 to go.
Could be the biggest upset of the year. Winning in Portland is VERY impressive with this collection of players.
2 minutes later it's a 2 point game. lol
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:11 PM
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Up 9 with 5:43 to go.
Could be the biggest upset of the year. Winning in Portland is VERY impressive with this collection of players.
2 minutes later it's a 2 point game. lol
Would love to see the Lakers win this. Guys deserve the reward for playing such a good game.
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:14 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by StOnEy333:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by StOnEy333:Up 9 with 5:43 to go.
Could be the biggest upset of the year. Winning in Portland is VERY impressive with this collection of players.
2 minutes later it's a 2 point game. lol
Would love to see the Lakers win this. Guys deserve the reward for playing such a good game.
Yeah, I get all that. And my GM tomorrow is a big blazer fan, and I'd love to throw this in his face. But let's not forget the most important thing here:
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:24 PM
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Screw the tank. Lakers win Lakers win.
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM
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That was a horrible no call on the blocking foul when the ball was tipped out. f**k the replay on who touched it last. Then a horrible no call on the alley-oop to go up. Dude held Williams at the top of the key until he jumped in for the ball.
I guess the tank can wait a night. lol That's back to back wins. One more against the pelicans tomorrow night and that'll be a win streak.
I guess the tank can wait a night. lol That's back to back wins. One more against the pelicans tomorrow night and that'll be a win streak.
Mar 3, 2014 at 9:35 PM
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Mar 3, 2014 at 11:58 PM
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Meeks with the #1 play of the night on sportscenter
Mar 4, 2014 at 5:33 AM
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Damn it so close last night.
Mar 4, 2014 at 11:01 AM
- GameOver
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I've seen enough games of Brooks and Bazemore and some more college games to where I'm going to update this...
Jordan Farmar - Keep
Jordan Hill - Keep
Nick Young - Gone
Kaman - Gone
Gasol - Gone, hopefully in a S&T
Jodie Meeks - Keep
Xavier Henry - Keep
Wesley Johnson - Keep
Ryan Kelly - Gone
Shawne Williams - Gone
Bazemore - Keep
Brooks - Admittedly, I've liked him since he was drafted by Brooklyn years ago. After watching him play, not so sure we'll keep him around unless we lose Jodie. It'd be a logjam with wing players if we kept him along with X, Wes, Jodie, Bazemore and Kobe. I'll call him Gone for now.
PG - Nash, Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Hill
C - Sacre
10 guys. I believe we have both our draft picks this year so two rookies squeeze into the equation somehow. It'd then be nice to pick up two to three FAs. I still have Bosh at the top of my wishlist. Also, the more and more I think about it, I think Nash is going to try to give it a run again next season. Farmar/Marshall aren't anything special but the two of them should be decent enough to hold down the PG spot. We have a lot of young talent in the backcourt so our FA/draft moves really should be bigs.
In the draft, pending where we land, I like Vonleh from Indiana and Willie Cauley-Stein from Kentucky. I especially like either of them tag teaming with Bosh down low. I understand us going after Bosh would put a huge dent (if not just completely remove us from the equation) on the Kevin Love sweepstakes in 2015. To be honest, I like Love a lot but I'd rather give max money to Bosh (despite the 4 year age difference). I also haven't watched as many Wolves games this season so maybe Love's game has developed more than I'm giving him credit for.
FA Targets
Chris Bosh
Kyle Lowry
DeJuan Blair
Ideally, Nash retires and we get Bosh and Blair. Wet dream situation would be that we get a top 3 pick and Philly gets #5 or #6. We then package our top 3 pick to Philly for both of their 1st rounders (their other one is NOLAs pick which is currently #9 I think). But those are way too many hypotheticals, so I'll take a step back.
PG - Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Bosh, Blair, Hill
C - Sacre, Cauley-Stein
Where I get held up on all of this is salary cap numbers. I would assume Bosh would command a max deal. Blair, is getting paid a bit under $1 million this season, so I like to think $4 million to come to LA is reasonable. Where we'll be after we resign all of our guys to their respective deals? Who knows...
Jordan Farmar - Keep
Jordan Hill - Keep
Nick Young - Gone
Kaman - Gone
Gasol - Gone, hopefully in a S&T
Jodie Meeks - Keep
Xavier Henry - Keep
Wesley Johnson - Keep
Ryan Kelly - Gone
Shawne Williams - Gone
Bazemore - Keep
Brooks - Admittedly, I've liked him since he was drafted by Brooklyn years ago. After watching him play, not so sure we'll keep him around unless we lose Jodie. It'd be a logjam with wing players if we kept him along with X, Wes, Jodie, Bazemore and Kobe. I'll call him Gone for now.
PG - Nash, Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Hill
C - Sacre
10 guys. I believe we have both our draft picks this year so two rookies squeeze into the equation somehow. It'd then be nice to pick up two to three FAs. I still have Bosh at the top of my wishlist. Also, the more and more I think about it, I think Nash is going to try to give it a run again next season. Farmar/Marshall aren't anything special but the two of them should be decent enough to hold down the PG spot. We have a lot of young talent in the backcourt so our FA/draft moves really should be bigs.
In the draft, pending where we land, I like Vonleh from Indiana and Willie Cauley-Stein from Kentucky. I especially like either of them tag teaming with Bosh down low. I understand us going after Bosh would put a huge dent (if not just completely remove us from the equation) on the Kevin Love sweepstakes in 2015. To be honest, I like Love a lot but I'd rather give max money to Bosh (despite the 4 year age difference). I also haven't watched as many Wolves games this season so maybe Love's game has developed more than I'm giving him credit for.
FA Targets
Chris Bosh
Kyle Lowry
DeJuan Blair
Ideally, Nash retires and we get Bosh and Blair. Wet dream situation would be that we get a top 3 pick and Philly gets #5 or #6. We then package our top 3 pick to Philly for both of their 1st rounders (their other one is NOLAs pick which is currently #9 I think). But those are way too many hypotheticals, so I'll take a step back.
PG - Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Bosh, Blair, Hill
C - Sacre, Cauley-Stein
Where I get held up on all of this is salary cap numbers. I would assume Bosh would command a max deal. Blair, is getting paid a bit under $1 million this season, so I like to think $4 million to come to LA is reasonable. Where we'll be after we resign all of our guys to their respective deals? Who knows...
Mar 4, 2014 at 2:53 PM
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Originally posted by GameOver:
PG - Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Bosh, Blair, Hill
C - Sacre, Cauley-Stein
What exactly does that team accomplish, assuming everyone stays healthy? 1st Round of the playoffs? 2nd Round, tops, and you don't have any cap space going forward? I like Chris Bosh, but I'll pass on him at max money. The only guy on the FA market that's worth pursuing this year is Lance Stephenson. I'd be fine with locking up some young guys to cheap, long term deals and then going after the '15 FAs, depending on what they'd accept. Hill won't be back, and I don't understand why you'd re-sign Meeks & Hill and then put them at 3rd string.
Fun game last night, btw. Even though it hurts draft position, we're tanking the right way. (i.e. giving young players a shot, so we know what we have going forward)
Mar 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by GameOver:
PG - Farmar, Marshall
SG - Bryant, Bazemore, Meeks
SF - Johnson, Henry
PF - Bosh, Blair, Hill
C - Sacre, Cauley-Stein
What exactly does that team accomplish, assuming everyone stays healthy? 1st Round of the playoffs? 2nd Round, tops, and you don't have any cap space going forward? I like Chris Bosh, but I'll pass on him at max money. The only guy on the FA market that's worth pursuing this year is Lance Stephenson. I'd be fine with locking up some young guys to cheap, long term deals and then going after the '15 FAs, depending on what they'd accept. Hill won't be back, and I don't understand why you'd re-sign Meeks & Hill and then put them at 3rd string.
Fun game last night, btw. Even though it hurts draft position, we're tanking the right way. (i.e. giving young players a shot, so we know what we have going forward)
They accomplish nothing but then what to do with our cap room next year? We'll have money to spend, you prefer to just not spend it and have Kobe lead a bunch of youngins into the abyss? Lance Stephenson has 0 reason to come out here. My roster wasn't meant to be a depth chart, simply listing the players at the respective positions. I'd like Hill to be back but think he might not be because of $$, so we'll see.
It sounds like you'd prefer if we just repeated what we did last offseason in the upcoming offseason. A bunch of one-year deals except this time around we lock-in a couple young guys who we give 3 or 4 year deals and roll the dice again.
*Edit: Honestly, I'd like to see us cut Sacre and give whatever rookie big (as I've mentioned before, my crush is Vonleh but I'm fine with Cauley-Stein too) as much PT as possible. We can even rotate Hill/Bosh at the 5 spot.
The biggest variable here that I think you aren't addressing is that Kobe cannot be happy with us doing nothing but repeating this past offseason. He signed his extension and said that Mitch went over their options and the plan that they planned on executing given the proposed extension. They have to have SOMETHING in mind that makes us, not contend, but be a playoff team next year.
[ Edited by GameOver on Mar 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM ]
Mar 5, 2014 at 12:25 AM
- sincalfaithful
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back on track
Mar 6, 2014 at 11:11 AM
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At the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference last week, both Daryl Morey and Bob Myers mentioned Danny Ainge as one of the executives around the league with whom they most enjoy negotiating and dealing. Myers described Ainge as affable and often casual, at times floating trade proposals that are quickly shot down, which may elicit a lighthearted chuckle from Ainge.
Morey said he also likes the approach of Mitch Kupchak, who starts off any discussion by clearly setting forth each the main pillars of what he's hoping to accomplish, and makes a straightforward inquiry as to whether his counterpart has the objectives and pieces to make a deal that would be mutually beneficial.
Morey said he also likes the approach of Mitch Kupchak, who starts off any discussion by clearly setting forth each the main pillars of what he's hoping to accomplish, and makes a straightforward inquiry as to whether his counterpart has the objectives and pieces to make a deal that would be mutually beneficial.