2013-14 General NBA Discussion Thread

Originally posted by marshulk:

Originally posted by lazy:
Is Zoran Dragic a better prospect than his brother?

Lol no

Are you srs

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by marshulk:

Originally posted by lazy:

Is Zoran Dragic a better prospect than his brother?

Lol no

Are you srs

wow so impressed with that break down you sir are amazing!

Originally posted by marshulk:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by marshulk:

Originally posted by lazy:
Is Zoran Dragic a better prospect than his brother?

Lol no

Are you srs

wow so impressed with that break down you sir are amazing!

You sound like you aren't even a drake fan

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by valrod33:
I hate those stupid stats. Kobe came into the league at 18 years old. Of course he is gonna be one of the youngest to have those numbers. I really wish they would use games played as a barometer instead of age

Kobe's not the only player in nba history to enter the league at age 18. And you really wish they would skew it to whatever way you'd prefer so Kobe wasn't at the top of a list of all time greats. Like it says, haters gonna hate. lol

Kareem at age 36 played 1170
Kobe has played in 1245
Wilt 1045
Malone 1192
Jordan 930


Thats all im saying, Good for Kobe for being in the league long enough to get those numbers, i just hate when they use age as the barometer for these stats. Games played in my opinion is a better way to measure these things

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by valrod33:

I hate those stupid stats. Kobe came into the league at 18 years old. Of course he is gonna be one of the youngest to have those numbers. I really wish they would use games played as a barometer instead of age

Kobe's not the only player in nba history to enter the league at age 18. And you really wish they would skew it to whatever way you'd prefer so Kobe wasn't at the top of a list of all time greats. Like it says, haters gonna hate. lol

Kareem at age 36 played 1170
Kobe has played in 1245
Wilt 1045
Malone 1192
Jordan 930


Thats all im saying, Good for Kobe for being in the league long enough to get those numbers, i just hate when they use age as the barometer for these stats. Games played in my opinion is a better way to measure these things

Hmm...but you can make the argument other way too. It takes couple of years for high-school players to figure s**t out (not just on the court but also off the court) because they skipped college and jumped straight to pros whereas those players you mentioned sort of hit the ground running when they reached pros. So...college-to-pro players were able to produce at a much higher level right away...and therefore no. of games is skewed as well.

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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Originally posted by valrod33:
MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Yeup. He started like 10 games his first two years lol.

Originally posted by valrod33:
MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Kobe ppg for first 2 seasons: 12ppg
MJ: 28ppg
WIlt: 38ppg
Kareem: 30.5ppg
Malone: 17.5ppg (by third season he was averaging 28 a game)

So...I don't think strictly using no. of games played makes it any fair-er - especially when Kobe started like 10 games in his first two years but played in pretty much every game for few minutes.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Yeup. He started like 10 games his first two years lol.

Originally posted by valrod33:

MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Kobe ppg for first 2 seasons: 12ppg
MJ: 28ppg
WIlt: 38ppg
Kareem: 30.5ppg
Malone: 17.5ppg (by third season he was averaging 28 a game)

So...I don't think strictly using no. of games played makes it any fair-er - especially when Kobe started like 10 games in his first two years but played in pretty much every game for few minutes.

The stat stoney posted was Total points not PPG so yeah

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Yeup. He started like 10 games his first two years lol.

Originally posted by valrod33:
MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Kobe ppg for first 2 seasons: 12ppg
MJ: 28ppg
WIlt: 38ppg
Kareem: 30.5ppg
Malone: 17.5ppg (by third season he was averaging 28 a game)

So...I don't think strictly using no. of games played makes it any fair-er - especially when Kobe started like 10 games in his first two years but played in pretty much every game for few minutes.

The stat stoney posted was Total points not PPG so yeah

I know. But I'm disagreeing with you. You're saying it should be points scored by no. of games played - which is ppg. Lol...so, I listed ppg for first 164 games or so and you can see your way is just as flawed.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Yeup. He started like 10 games his first two years lol.

Originally posted by valrod33:
MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Kobe ppg for first 2 seasons: 12ppg
MJ: 28ppg
WIlt: 38ppg
Kareem: 30.5ppg
Malone: 17.5ppg (by third season he was averaging 28 a game)

So...I don't think strictly using no. of games played makes it any fair-er - especially when Kobe started like 10 games in his first two years but played in pretty much every game for few minutes.

The stat stoney posted was Total points not PPG so yeah

I know. But I'm disagreeing with you. You're saying it should be points scored by no. of games played - which is ppg. Lol...so, I listed ppg for first 164 games or so and you can see your way is just as flawed.

I think you need to go back and re-read this convo

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Kobe didn't come out as a 1st team starter, either. He was a support player his first couple of years.

Yeup. He started like 10 games his first two years lol.

Originally posted by valrod33:
MJ at age 21 scored 2313 points Kobe at age 21 had already scored 4240 points

Wilt at age 23 scored 2707 points, Kobe at 23 already had 8197 points

Kareem at age 22 scored 2361 points, Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Malone at age 22 scored 1203 Kobe at 22 had 6178 points

Kobe ppg for first 2 seasons: 12ppg
MJ: 28ppg
WIlt: 38ppg
Kareem: 30.5ppg
Malone: 17.5ppg (by third season he was averaging 28 a game)

So...I don't think strictly using no. of games played makes it any fair-er - especially when Kobe started like 10 games in his first two years but played in pretty much every game for few minutes.

The stat stoney posted was Total points not PPG so yeah

I know. But I'm disagreeing with you. You're saying it should be points scored by no. of games played - which is ppg. Lol...so, I listed ppg for first 164 games or so and you can see your way is just as flawed.

I think you need to go back and re-read this convo

"I really wish they would use games played as a barometer instead of age"

lol you're basically saying do it by ppg