Originally posted by LA9erFan:
It's weird that this is such a hot button issue for you, especially considering how little you care about basketball overall. It's like he's related to you. lol
None of what you said refuted my point, which was that his efficiency dropped off significantly on each play type when compared to what he did in OKC. His "improvement" was a function of going from being the 3rd option in OKC to the #1 option in Houston. (which also explains his drop in efficiency) I'm not saying he's not a very good offensive player...he is...I'm just saying that the only difference between OKC and Houston is opportunity. I'd be happy to go and reference the exact Synergy Sports data that those articles reference to illustrate his across the board drop in efficiency since joining Houston if you want to waste my time.
He was the 2nd most turnover prone player in the league last year, at 3.8 TOPG.
He's a very good offensive player, yet his defensive deficiencies and tendency to turn the ball over lead his overall impact on wins and losses to be less than it appears to be. To put it simply, he's great at the things that most fans see and what advanced statistics track, and absolutely atrocious at many things that they don't. You don't accrue statistics for playing terrible defense like is in that video, but you absolutely hurt your team.
Your statement: "His [Harden's] play hasn't impacted wins and losses in Houston" is what I'm mostly responding to.
And regarding turnovers, it is bad, but Kobe was at 3.7 last year (3rd most last year). So Kobe must be overrated by your logic. I don't think its coincidence that SGs handling the ball that much are turning it over.
Or on this year Derrick Rose is at 5.3 TPG but your blasting Harden for it, that he is on pace for a historical record on it lol. Kevin Durant is at 4.5 TPG, OMG, he is the worst too! We're friggin not even at the 10 game mark and you're talking about setting historical records.
oh and lol @ amp trying to chime in by piggybacking on LA.