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NBA Off-season Thread

  • 4ML
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Lots of good memories of McGrady doing ridiculous stuff in early 2000s. Was always fun to watch before he slowed down.

As always...Bill Simmons wrote a great article on McGrady

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9616069/the-unfortunate-tale-t-mac
[ Edited by 4ML on Aug 31, 2013 at 1:22 AM ]
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Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by 4ML:
It's not important to me. I was only interested in the difference between Lebron and Durant as I've said before.

Yes, it's the same difference between Carmelo and Curry. Shocking!

I'm not saying you're blind, you just lack objectivity because you are so aligned with Lebron. Nowhere was I trying to diminish his epic season or how good he is, I'm simply stating that the evidence that was presented was misleading. Goodness.

Sure, take Carmelo and Curry example. Carmelo got a vote for MVP and Curry didn't get a nod as an All-Star reserve. Carmelo is a super-star...Curry is an all-star caliber player. That is shocking difference considering many felt Durant has taken over or is on par with Lebron in 2011. And, it's not like Durant has slumped or hasn't improved. The dude shot 50, 40, and 90 from field, 3s, and charity strip.

Finally, regardless of what I think of Lebron, I've criticized him when I feel it's warranted. Yes, I don't criticize him for petty s**t like the majority of ppl or pretend to write his legacy after every game. I try to be pretty objective...but I've my biases just like everyone else. Last two years speak for themselves.

I was just pointing out how far ahead Lebron is from the rest of the league - including Durant (who I like very much). You can use any example you want from PER stat - and the gap is shockingly wide.
[ Edited by 4ML on Aug 31, 2013 at 2:32 AM ]
Originally posted by 4ML:
Sure, take Carmelo and Curry example. Carmelo got a vote for MVP and Curry didn't get a nod as an All-Star reserve. Carmelo is a super-star...Curry is an all-star caliber player. That is shocking difference considering many felt Durant has taken over or is on par with Lebron in 2011. And, it's not like Durant has slumped or hasn't improved. The dude shot 50, 40, and 90 from field, 3s, and charity strip.

Finally, regardless of what I think of Lebron, I've criticized him when I feel it's warranted. Yes, I don't criticize him for petty s**t like the majority of ppl or pretend to write his legacy after every game. I try to be pretty objective...but I've my biases just like everyone else. Last two years speak for themselves.

I was just pointing out how far ahead Lebron is from the rest of the league - including Durant (who I like very much). You can use any example you want from PER stat - and the gap is shockingly wide.

Don't let fan voting hinder your perception of a surprisingly good player
[ Edited by YungAce on Aug 31, 2013 at 11:18 AM ]
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Originally posted by YungAce:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Sure, take Carmelo and Curry example. Carmelo got a vote for MVP and Curry didn't get a nod as an All-Star reserve. Carmelo is a super-star...Curry is an all-star caliber player. That is shocking difference considering many felt Durant has taken over or is on par with Lebron in 2011. And, it's not like Durant has slumped or hasn't improved. The dude shot 50, 40, and 90 from field, 3s, and charity strip.

Finally, regardless of what I think of Lebron, I've criticized him when I feel it's warranted. Yes, I don't criticize him for petty s**t like the majority of ppl or pretend to write his legacy after every game. I try to be pretty objective...but I've my biases just like everyone else. Last two years speak for themselves.

I was just pointing out how far ahead Lebron is from the rest of the league - including Durant (who I like very much). You can use any example you want from PER stat - and the gap is shockingly wide.

Don't let fan voting hinder your perception of a surprisingly good player

Of course, but it's not just fan voting. He didn't get picked up by the coaching staff either. He didn't get selected to All-NBA teams ever, while 'Melo has multiple selections. Also, no where in my post I said he isn't a good player. I love watching him play and I'm a fan of his. I called him an all-star caliber player. But, he is limited by his size and athleticism...plus 'Melo is on another level.
Melo sucks tbh
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Originally posted by marshniners24:
Melo sucks tbh

The dude was probably the most complete scorer in 2012-2013.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Melo sucks tbh

The dude was probably the most complete scorer in 2012-2013.

Agreed. And the Knicks still sucked
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Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Melo sucks tbh

The dude was probably the most complete scorer in 2012-2013.

Agreed. And the Knicks still sucked

Yes, it's a team sport. They made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Only 8 teams get that far...so how did they exactly sucked?
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Melo sucks tbh

The dude was probably the most complete scorer in 2012-2013.

Agreed. And the Knicks still sucked

Yes, it's a team sport. They made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Only 8 teams get that far...so how did they exactly sucked?

Melo sucks. Why are you arguing my opinion
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Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Melo sucks tbh

The dude was probably the most complete scorer in 2012-2013.

Agreed. And the Knicks still sucked

Yes, it's a team sport. They made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs. Only 8 teams get that far...so how did they exactly sucked?

Melo sucks. Why are you arguing my opinion



It's already Sept. NBA starts in less than 2 months
Originally posted by 4ML:


It's already Sept. NBA starts in less than 2 months

Thank goodness. Can't wait to see how improved the kings are going to be!
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Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by 4ML:


It's already Sept. NBA starts in less than 2 months

Thank goodness. Can't wait to see how improved the kings are going to be!

will suck lol
ORLANDIPO!





[ Edited by jrg on Sep 1, 2013 at 5:17 PM ]
Anybody know wtf would cause this to happens to ones foot?