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2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by NinerJedi:
Pop pretty much sabotaged his own team's championship.

1. Pop elects to sit Hall of Famer Duncan out the last two possessions giving Bosh free rebounds.
2. Pop rests Parker in last defensive possessions of overtime just to give him rest.
3. Pop leaves Ginobili in critical moments of the game. Subsequently turns the ball over whenever he dribbled.

Pop just overthinking and overcoaching at this point.
+1 what the hell was Pop thinking?

Yeah, reminded me of Indiana in Game 1. What he was thinking was that they could switch all screens, which is fine and dandy, but you still gotta get the rebound.
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.
Game winning basket for Lebron as well
[ Edited by ads_2006 on Jun 18, 2013 at 11:10 PM ]
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Not down the stretch he didn't. That should have Ray Allen's face on it, lol.

The 3 to cut down to 2 was pretty huge too. That put the pressure on Kwahi to make two FTs and he missed one. Of course, Ray Allen gets huge credit for the 3 and the two FTs in OT....but Lebron was plenty clutch in this game.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.

Sure. But his way of being the best player in the league diminishes the opportunities of those around him unless they're spot up shooters or drive & dish bigs. There are others who have been the best player in the league while having a malleable enough skill set to allow other players to do what they do well.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
The last beast to put up at least 30-9-9 in the NBA finals was..... MJ

Jus sayin

Right. And his team was outscored by a point when he was on the court tonight. I know that everyone thinks that suddenly and miraculously he has limited talent around him, but his huge individual numbers/unimpressive team numbers thing is part of his game.

What was the score differential when his head band was off and Millers shoe was off?
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

Kobe was a badass in the 4th quarter of that game, and especially the last 2 minutes. He wasn't yacking the ball all over the court the way LeBron was tonight in the last couple of minutes.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.

No, he didn't.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.

Sure. But his way of being the best player in the league diminishes the opportunities of those around him unless they're spot up shooters or drive & dish bigs. There are others who have been the best player in the league while having a malleable enough skill set to allow other players to do what they do well.

Lebron is exactly that. Lebron has always made players around him better...much better. Wade was dropping 40 pts in last years Conference Finals playing alongside Lebron. I don't get this argument at all.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.

Kobe game 6 vs the Celtics the year the Celtics won it was Pretty bad too.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Not down the stretch he didn't. That should have Ray Allen's face on it, lol.

The 3 to cut down to 2 was pretty huge too. That put the pressure on Kwahi to make two FTs and he missed one. Of course, Ray Allen gets huge credit for the 3 and the two FTs in OT....but Lebron was plenty clutch in this game.

It was. But there were at least 4 other atrocious possessions by him during that time.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.

Sure. But his way of being the best player in the league diminishes the opportunities of those around him unless they're spot up shooters or drive & dish bigs. There are others who have been the best player in the league while having a malleable enough skill set to allow other players to do what they do well.

The vast majority of players who play around Lebron get better. Wade actually had a great season from an efficiency standpoint. Same with Bosh. They've also gone to 3 straight finals so there really isn't any arguing with how Spoelstra chooses to deploy them.

If those guys can't figure out how to play with the best player in the league during the playoffs, that's more of an indictment on their game, not his.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Lebron is exactly that. Lebron has always made players around him better...much better. Wade was dropping 40 pts in last years Conference Finals playing alongside Lebron. I don't get this argument at all.

Sure, Wade will have his moments, because he's one of the best players in the world, but has he been as effective alongside LeBron? No way. Same with Bosh.