Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If I ever "talk over" anyone's head, it's not intentional and I'd like you to point it out to me. Basketball is an amazing game and I certainly don't have the market cornered on knowledge of it. That said, I do spend a lot more time on it than others do, and all I'm trying to do is communicate my perspective in an easily digestable way. You're a smart dude...it's never my intention to be all like, "I'm a coach and you're not, so I'm gonna say a bunch of complicated s**t to confuse you and therefore 'win' the conversation."
I think I found a good way to explain my "LeBron diminishes players who aren't shooters/drive & dish guys" perspective in a clearer, and more specific way, which will hopefully make my point more understandable, even if you don't agree. IMO, NBA offense has two major elements:
1) Dribble Penetration
2) Player Movement (ball movement comes from player movement)
I'm of the opinion that having LeBron on your team greatly diminishes #2, because he's a considerably less effective player off of the ball. When you watch Miami play, you don't see guys moving around very much at all. Especially compared to a team like San Antonio, who are on the opposite end of the spectrum and use a ton of player/ball movement. In Miami, guys spot up, or stand in "the bird cage" (as they were calling it with Chris Andersen) on the sideline, where LeBron can dump it off to the big guy for a dunk if that's available. The player/ball movement element is important, because it creates multiple opportunities for multiple players to score, because it gives multiple chances for the defense to make a mistake, whereas a spot up shooter who's just standing there doesn't.
This "just kinda stand there" element is what I believe hinders Wade & Bosh. It's not a problem for guys like Battier, Allen, Miller, etc. because that's pretty much the entirety of what they can do on the offensive end. But with Wade & Bosh, they're not put in a position to do what they do best, except for the handful of times where they are thrown a bone and the play runs through them. IMO, this is incorrectly interpreted as their abilities waning when it's actually a function of their roles within this style of play.
Miami's back-to-back champs, but IMO that's due to a significant talent advantage over the rest of the league. And that's my current thinking, not an application of my 2010 POV to today.
Sorry man, I didn't mean to sound like an a hole. It was a compliment. You know more about b-ball than almost everyone. I honestly didn't mean it like, "you're a coach so you win the convo with coach talk."
You are right that MIA stands around a lot in the half court. And that element, mixed with the best player in the world on the team, has an impact on Wade and Bosh. To what degree? I'm not sure. For Bosh, games like last night are just bad. He went from being the man, to a third option, so mentally this must have a major impact. And Wade just looks older and a little hobbled, which is expected. He has taken a pounding over the years. With that said, he is still one of the best players in the game. And Riley has done a good job of getting a bunch of shooters with LBJ. That works well for him.