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2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It's the highest because guys like Jordan didn't put themselves in an elimination game situation.

FYI, Jordan played in 13 elimination games and LBJ's numbers are better in every category.

That was a different time and different league. Jordan won his championships without other superstars on the team. Can't do that now.

Yeah Pippen and Rodman were no good. And Phil Jackson coaching was just garbage. And all the 3 point bombers they had were horrible. You are right. He was all on his own.

Anyone who doesn't think Pippen wasn't great is clueless. That guy was like a poor-man's Lebron... great defender, passer, dunker, and passer... revisionist history buffs
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It's the highest because guys like Jordan didn't put themselves in an elimination game situation.

FYI, Jordan played in 13 elimination games and LBJ's numbers are better in every category.

That was a different time and different league. Jordan won his championships without other superstars on the team. Can't do that now.

Yeah Pippen and Rodman were no good. And Phil Jackson coaching was just garbage. And all the 3 point bombers they had were horrible. You are right. He was all on his own.

Anyone who doesn't think Pippen wasn't great is clueless. That guy was like a poor-man's Lebron... great defender, passer, dunker, and passer... revisionist history buffs

Pippen was one of the greates players of his era. Scoring, defense, passing, even a little rebounding. Rodman was one of the best rebounders of his era. Horace Grant was very good before him. They had plenty of guys bombing 3's who were good. Phil Jackson - enough said.

He didn't do it alone. He was on an enormously talented team.

I'd say a healthy Scottie Pippen in his day is more help than a limping around Dwayne Wade.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:57 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pippen was one of the greates players of his era. Scoring, defense, passing, even a little rebounding. Rodman was one of the best rebounders of his era. Horace Grant was very good before him. They had plenty of guys bombing 3's who were. Phil Jackson - enough said.

He didn't do it alone. He was on an enormously talented team.

I'd say a healthy Scottie Pippen in his day is more help than a limping around Dwayne Wade.

absolutely
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It's the highest because guys like Jordan didn't put themselves in an elimination game situation.

FYI, Jordan played in 13 elimination games and LBJ's numbers are better in every category.

That was a different time and different league. Jordan won his championships without other superstars on the team. Can't do that now.

Yeah Pippen and Rodman were no good. And Phil Jackson coaching was just garbage. And all the 3 point bombers they had were horrible. You are right. He was all on his own.

Anyone who doesn't think Pippen wasn't great is clueless. That guy was like a poor-man's Lebron... great defender, passer, dunker, and passer... revisionist history buffs

I agree with you , but I also don't think Pippen would have developed as well as he did had it not been for older brother (MJ) beating on him in practice.

Many players from the MJ teams played on other teams, but many never panned out to be as good with MJ not along side.
lol at the Lebron haters. Dude backpacked his team in the 4th quarter
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
lol at the Lebron haters. Dude backpacked his team in the 4th quarter
just sayin...


Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
lol at the Lebron haters. Dude backpacked his team in the 4th quarter
just sayin...



This. Without that shot, they lose. Plus, Lebron's first three was a brick. Didn't even hit the rim. They got lucky to get the rebound and kick it back out to him and he made it.
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
lol at the Lebron haters. Dude backpacked his team in the 4th quarter
just sayin...



This. Without that shot, they lose. Plus, Lebron's first three was a brick. Didn't even hit the rim. They got lucky to get the rebound and kick it back out to him and he made it.

Technically with out any single point scored in regular time and they lose.

Just sayin. They needed all of them to be tied
Originally posted by SportsFan:
This. Without that shot, they lose. Plus, Lebron's first three was a brick. Didn't even hit the rim. They got lucky to get the rebound and kick it back out to him and he made it.

Without Lebron's clutch three and insane start to the fourth the Heat wouldn't have won. He is the biggest reason they won. And getting a rebound isn't lucky.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
just sayin...



Ray was super clutch, and LBJ made several mistakes in the final minutes, but w/o him Ray wouldn't have even had a chance to tie it up. LBJ is the reason the Heat were in the game.
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
just sayin...



Ray was super clutch, and LBJ made several mistakes in the final minutes, but w/o him Ray wouldn't have even had a chance to tie it up. LBJ is the reason the Heat were in the game.

No.

Ray Allen's 3 was actually worth 95 points. Lebron did nothing for the Heat to reach the 95 points necessary to tie the game. What are you a Lebron fun boy?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
No.

Ray Allen's 3 was actually worth 95 points. Lebron did nothing for the Heat to reach the 95 points necessary to tie the game. What are you a Lebron fun boy?

Lebron sucks. Lucky a55 triple double
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
lol at the Lebron haters. Dude backpacked his team in the 4th quarter
just sayin...



They aren't even in that position without Lebron's 4th quarter. They lose by a lot without him.
Pippin was also a shutdown defender. Doberman Defense. The Heat are a product of media hype. LeBron is great but don't compare him with MJ, he had a great 4th quarter in game 6 but he had turnover after turnover in the crucial stages of the game. His elbow jumper is erratic.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
I agree with you , but I also don't think Pippen would have developed as well as he did had it not been for older brother (MJ) beating on him in practice.

Many players from the MJ teams played on other teams, but many never panned out to be as good with MJ not along side.

totally agree.
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