Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Pretty sure Westbrook plays for OKC
My second point I should've hit enter. The ORLY? Was for the Westbrook comment. Of course Westbrook being hurt was an advantage for Memphis. That's kind of an obvious point.
Yes, I was stating the obvious. If Westbrook was healthy - Memphis would have been out of the 2nd round with or without Gay. I'd even say they were extremely lucky against Clippers too with Griffin's injury.
Maybe you missed my reply to Memphis9er, but I'm no longer arguing the position that Memphis were better with Gay. He knows a lot more about his team than I do. Before that, with my earlier discussions with you and Pete - I was realizing that you guys are correct in stating that Memphis is a better team after the trade.
FWIW, I agree with your position but completely disagree with your arguments. What happened against the Clippers in 2012 means nothing as far as the discussion on Gay is concerned. Every playoff series is different and every game is different. Using that logic, you could argue that Bulls are just as good without Rose than they are with him because in 2011 playoffs they lost to Miami in 5 games as well.
Originally posted by marshniners24:
I get what you're saying 49ml and the Derrick rose point is a good example. But I still think it means something that they beat the Clipps without gay as apposed to losing with him.
Maybe...but we agree - Memphis is better off without Gay. Numbers clearly show they are. Bayliss has been terrific. They will be a tough out for either GS or SA.
If Miami makes it to Final, then Memphis will give them a tough challenge. They sort of remind me of the Pistons who beat the Lakers in the Finals.
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