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2012-2013 NBA Playoffs Discussion Thread

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
^^^

I hope the guy in video realizes that referees don't have slow-mo vision. lol ...As I said earlier...calls even out and the video is a good example of that.

I wish his limit wasn't infinite. I don't think he's going to give up his pointless argument.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
^^^

I hope the guy in video realizes that referees don't have slow-mo vision. lol ...As I said earlier...calls even out and the video is a good example of that.

Watching his video. 2 main points

- Refs are calling fouls with impossible angles of vision. Or too far away from the play. When the ref closer and with the better angle doesn't call a foul, why would you?

- Team to team, the calls were pretty even. The only thing that stands out is LeBron is getting every single borderline call.
Originally posted by infinite_limit:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
^^^

I hope the guy in video realizes that referees don't have slow-mo vision. lol ...As I said earlier...calls even out and the video is a good example of that.

Watching his video. 2 main points

- Refs are calling fouls with impossible angles of vision. Or too far away from the play. When the ref closer and with the better angle doesn't call a foul, why would you?

- Team to team, the calls were pretty even. The only thing that stands out is LeBron is getting every single borderline call.

Too bad facts don't back you up once again. Lebron had 7 FTs through 47.5 minutes in the game, before he was intentionally fouled twice in the last 30 seconds and finished with 11 FTs for the game. Nate Robinson had more FTs than Lebron James before those late fouls.

Some fouls won't be called and some clean plays will be called. That happens in every game in every team sport. Refs aren't always looking straight ahead. So, watching their head doesn't exactly tell you where they are looking - which is why players throw their arms up on contact to get their attention.

...and FWIW - Jordan will all his complaining about physical play started the tradition of protecting star players in the NBA. IMO, Lebron doesn't get a lot of borderline calls because he is so big and strong, sort of like what happened with Shaq. Guys like Wade get way more borderline calls than Lebron.


Rasheed Wallace pulling a Eddie Curry in NY.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Too bad facts don't back you up once again. Lebron had 7 FTs through 47.5 minutes in the game, before he was intentionally fouled twice in the last 30 seconds and finished with 11 FTs for the game. Nate Robinson had more FTs than Lebron James before those late fouls.

Some fouls won't be called and some clean plays will be called. That happens in every game in every team sport. Refs aren't always looking straight ahead. So, watching their head doesn't exactly tell you where they are looking - which is why players throw their arms up on contact to get their attention.

...and FWIW - Jordan will all his complaining about physical play started the tradition of protecting star players in the NBA. IMO, Lebron doesn't get a lot of borderline calls because he is so big and strong, sort of like what happened with Shaq. Guys like Wade get way more borderline calls than Lebron.

Point being?

Magic and Bird didn't get calls before MJ?
Originally posted by infinite_limit:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Too bad facts don't back you up once again. Lebron had 7 FTs through 47.5 minutes in the game, before he was intentionally fouled twice in the last 30 seconds and finished with 11 FTs for the game. Nate Robinson had more FTs than Lebron James before those late fouls.

Some fouls won't be called and some clean plays will be called. That happens in every game in every team sport. Refs aren't always looking straight ahead. So, watching their head doesn't exactly tell you where they are looking - which is why players throw their arms up on contact to get their attention.

...and FWIW - Jordan will all his complaining about physical play started the tradition of protecting star players in the NBA. IMO, Lebron doesn't get a lot of borderline calls because he is so big and strong, sort of like what happened with Shaq. Guys like Wade get way more borderline calls than Lebron.

Point being?

Magic and Bird didn't get calls before MJ?

Point being its your imagination that Lebron is getting every call. If that was the case, he'd be shooting more FTs than Nate.

Of course Magic and Bird got calls but they weren't protected like Jordan in 90's.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Point being its your imagination that Lebron is getting every call. If that was the case, he'd be shooting more FTs than Nate.

Of course Magic and Bird got calls but they weren't protected like Jordan in 90's.

That makes no sense. James was having a poor game until the final few minutes. He wasn't shooting FTs because he was taking (bricking) lazy outside shots

You think Jordan was protected against the Pistons, Knicks, Mourning's Heat? The Bulls had 3 players starting on the All-Defense team in 1996, they weren't the finesse team that current Heat or Thunder are.

All signs point to you being too young to have watched 90's NBA
4ML...give up, dude. You're not talking to a reasonable person.
WARRIORS BABY!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:


Rasheed Wallace pulling a Eddie Curry in NY.

Holy f**king s**t! I kept wait for Rasheed to come into the picture and then I realized "oh snap! He's the big fat guy in the center of the thing the whole time!"
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
4ML...give up, dude. You're not talking to a reasonable person.

I post video evidence and statistics, while he makes blanket statements. No wonder you feel the need to come to his rescue. Hilarious
[ Edited by infinite_limit on May 12, 2013 at 8:36 PM ]
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
I used to be the same way 4ml
I had favorite players not favorite teams in the nba. Then i went to a warriors game in 07 and became a fan

I've been to Warriors game and it's a lot of fun...but it's hard for me to really root for a team that plays in Oakland...(sorry man, I know you're A's fan). It's due to my dislike of the Raiders. Their obnoxious fan base (one of whom was my room-mate for couple years in college) doesn't help either.

I'm hoping Warriors move to San Francisco. But, I don't think NBA will ever be the same as NFL for me. I grew up watching the Niners...but I started gettin' into NBA a bit later and it was because of the players who played the game rather than a team.

You will be a Warriors fan in 2 years when LeBron comes aboard.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
4ML...give up, dude. You're not talking to a reasonable person.

I know...I should. This will be my last response to this troll.

I did a 2 minute research and found an interesting article. It had the quotes from well respected Coaches like Wilkens and Versace.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1990-04-11/sports/9002010097_1_bulls-referees-cavaliers-coach-lenny-wilkens

``He`s a great player and he gets all the calls, and if he gets all the calls he`s tough to play against,`` Lenny Wilkens said after that earlier game.

Then, after the Bulls beat the Pacers here last week, Indiana coach Dick Versace, whose team plays the Bulls next Monday, said Jordan ``is nice to watch, but he has an awful lot of license.``

Finally, Milwaukee coach Del Harris, whose Bucks play the Bulls here Friday, said in response to a reporter`s question about Jordan`s MVP chances: ``As ominous as it may sound, I think he`s still improving. One thing making him tough now is they`re letting him carry the ball when he changes direction.``
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Lebron is averaging 7 FT attempts a game this season...which is good for 6th in the league. Kevin Durant averages 9.3 FT attempts. Jordan, who was getting 9 FTs a game in 1990 didn't think he was getting enough calls.




Originally posted by infinite_limit:

All signs point to you being too young to have watched 90's NBA

Yes, I was very young in 1990s...and I'm glad I was. I started watching NBA in 1993-94. But, I do have access to internet. 3 NBA coaches (2 of them were considered pretty damn good) made my point for you. The article I posted above is from 1990 and preferential treatment of Jordan only got worse in the following years.


Maybe you're just too old to recall the NBA of 1990s.

[ Edited by 49ersMyLife on May 12, 2013 at 10:46 PM ]
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:


Rasheed Wallace pulling a Eddie Curry in NY.

Holy f**king s**t! I kept wait for Rasheed to come into the picture and then I realized "oh snap! He's the big fat guy in the center of the thing the whole time!"

I'm pretty sure I saw him play against Miami earlier in the season (sometime in November/December). He looked fine then. Can't believe someone can do this to themselves in 6 months.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
I used to be the same way 4ml
I had favorite players not favorite teams in the nba. Then i went to a warriors game in 07 and became a fan

I've been to Warriors game and it's a lot of fun...but it's hard for me to really root for a team that plays in Oakland...(sorry man, I know you're A's fan). It's due to my dislike of the Raiders. Their obnoxious fan base (one of whom was my room-mate for couple years in college) doesn't help either.

I'm hoping Warriors move to San Francisco. But, I don't think NBA will ever be the same as NFL for me. I grew up watching the Niners...but I started gettin' into NBA a bit later and it was because of the players who played the game rather than a team.

You will be a Warriors fan in 2 years when LeBron comes aboard.

I'd love for Lebron to come to Bay Area (I'd drive down to games from Tahoe several times during the season!!!). That'd be awesome and I'd like to see it happen but I don't know if Lebron will leave Miami as long as Pat Riley is there. But, if Lebron is looking to move out of South Beach - Warriors will make a lot of sense with deadly shooters and all that cap room to land Lebron and one more starter in 2014 free agency.