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2013 Oakland A's thread

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Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Yup:

http://www.modbee.com/2010/01/23/1019702/piccinini-reflects-on-as-deal.html

Should infuriate anyone from the pro-Oakland crowd....been sabotaged for years

Eleven years later, we can only fantasize about Piccinini's owning the A's. He surely would have restored the revered Haas family's team-community lovefest.Piccinini had the wealth — and he's even wealthier now — to lead the charge for a privately built ballpark.

I'll take a split with the rangers.
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Originally posted by socalfan21:
I'll take a split with the rangers.

Ya, since it's in Arlington.
hopefully we win tomorrow
Otero had no business being in the game at the point he was brought in. I have absolutely no idea what BoMel was thinking.
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
Otero had no business being in the game at the point he was brought in. I have absolutely no idea what BoMel was thinking.

why's he still on our team?
thought he was gonna gtfo theday after his appearance after the 18 inning game
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Yup:

http://www.modbee.com/2010/01/23/1019702/piccinini-reflects-on-as-deal.html

Should infuriate anyone from the pro-Oakland crowd....been sabotaged for years

The Giants have been subtly and not so subtly pushing the A's out for a few years now, from opposing the pro-Oakland ownership group, and then afterwards speaking with a forked tongue about how they "hope" the A's can get a stadium done in Oakland, knowing damn well that the odds of that actually happening are slim to none, blocking any potential move to San Jose, as well as opening up a team shop in Walnut Creek, definitely A's territory. San Jose's mayor was right when he said that the Giants don't just want to keep the A's out of San Jose, they want to see them leave the region entirely.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Bottom line, the Giants are and have been acting with bad faith. Before Wolff purchased the team, there was a very pro Oakland group of investors that got blocked by the MLB. One of the reasons cited was local opposition, only when they interviewed one of the principal investors, he said that the Giants had been financing these groups against an ownership group that was gung ho about keeping the A's in Oakland. The reality of the situation is that the Giants don't want the A's in Oakland and they damn sure don't want them in Dan Jose. Even Fremont and Sacramento could be too close for comfort. Essentially the Giants want the entire NorCal region to themselves, so f**k the A's and their fan base, they can head off to Portland or Vancouver for all they care.



This is why I hope this lawsuit is successful and the MLB tells the Giants to go shove it. They don't want any amicable resolution to this, they want the A's gone period.

The Giants would prefer the A's left. The A's would prefer the Giants leave. Youre viewing it from an Athletics-only perspective. Every team wants the market to themselves.

The A's have been bitter for YEARS about the bay area being heavily skewed to the Giants in fan population. Thats just the way it is. The Giants came first, and they captured the loyalty of the bay area early on with Mays, McCovey, Cepeda, Marichal, Perry, etc. They play in the most iconic city in the bay area, and have made it a point to put the best product possible out on the field every year.

The A's have some nerve to say the SJ territory was given as a gift in 1992. The entire bay area was originally the Giants'.

If this whole situation was really just about finding a new home, the A's wouldnt have put all their eggs in the San Jose basket. They covet SJ because they have dollar signs in their eyes looking in that direction. They can keep being hypocrites by making the Giants out as the villain, but the ulterior motive of the A's is to get their foot in the door of the Giants success as a business, and siphon money away from them and into their own pockets.

Its all just business. The Giants have a great model going, and the A's want a part of it. The Giants would rather have the bay area to themselves, but would be fine with the A's just staying on their side of the line and figuring out their own business model. It sucks that Oakland is a pit, but thats how it is.

Major League Baseball hasnt forced the Giants to do anything because theyre one of the top "model" franchises that make the league money. They win, they have the longest current sellout streak in baseball (200) in the best ballpark in the Majors, they have a large fanbase, they have a broad fanbase around the country that buys tickets when they come to town, theyre a top merchandise seller, theyre one of the leading organizations in marketing and social media, etc.

The A's dont make much money, they dont spend much money on the team, they dont have a huge fanbase, they dont have many star players, etc. Baseball isnt going to do anything to drag the Giants business down. They stand to lose on that deal, which is why its been 5+ years of radio silence on the matter.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
The Giants would prefer the A's left. The A's would prefer the Giants leave. Youre viewing it from an Athletics-only perspective. Every team wants the market to themselves.

The A's have been bitter for YEARS about the bay area being heavily skewed to the Giants in fan population. Thats just the way it is. The Giants came first, and they captured the loyalty of the bay area early on with Mays, McCovey, Cepeda, Marichal, Perry, etc. They play in the most iconic city in the bay area, and have made it a point to put the best product possible out on the field every year.

The A's have some nerve to say the SJ territory was given as a gift in 1992. The entire bay area was originally the Giants'.

If this whole situation was really just about finding a new home, the A's wouldnt have put all their eggs in the San Jose basket. They covet SJ because they have dollar signs in their eyes looking in that direction. They can keep being hypocrites by making the Giants out as the villain, but the ulterior motive of the A's is to get their foot in the door of the Giants success as a business, and siphon money away from them and into their own pockets.

Its all just business. The Giants have a great model going, and the A's want a part of it. The Giants would rather have the bay area to themselves, but would be fine with the A's just staying on their side of the line and figuring out their own business model. It sucks that Oakland is a pit, but thats how it is.

Major League Baseball hasnt forced the Giants to do anything because theyre one of the top "model" franchises that make the league money. They win, they have the longest current sellout streak in baseball (200) in the best ballpark in the Majors, they have a large fanbase, they have a broad fanbase around the country that buys tickets when they come to town, theyre a top merchandise seller, theyre one of the leading organizations in marketing and social media, etc.

The A's dont make much money, they dont spend much money on the team, they dont have a huge fanbase, they dont have many star players, etc. Baseball isnt going to do anything to drag the Giants business down. They stand to lose on that deal, which is why its been 5+ years of radio silence on the matter.

lol more like since Barry Bonds happened/ AT&T park opened.

The underline is true, but they still make enough money and get funds from other teams. If lew wolff wasn't a cheap ass he'd resign star players. Lew Wolff's "I don't have enough money to resign a star player" is bull s**t. He's just a cheap ass, he gets enough money from funding from other teams to put towards his team, he just doesn't care. He's said before, on radio, that if it means he needs to lose even a little money in order to win, he doesn't want to win. He's doesn't give a f**k about winning, he's a business man.

Honestly, I think I'd rather have the A's get a new owner that cares about winning that'll build a stadium around Oakland, than if the A's and Lew Wolff went to San Jose. I don't think he'd spend much more.

He's a cheap ass and he's ruining the franchise. Billy Beane is the one keeping them alive. I don't know where the hell the A's would be without Billy Beane. He's one of the most underrated guys in the MLB, and probably the best GM in the league. To literally be forced to rebuild every 5 years and still manage to be this competitive is pretty amazing. Other teams take his philosophy and use it with a lot more money, yet he's still successful. Beane is a boss.
Rosales K's when pinch hitting. Shock.

Should have pinch hit Frieman.
That was pathetic hitting.
Another K for Rosales with the bases loaded. The A's hitting w/ RISP the last 3 weeks has generally been atrocious. Especially considering how many times they fail with less than two outs. Chili Davis needs to get these guts to start learning how to hit outfield flies with runners on 3rd and less than two outs. It's deplorable execution right now.
Melvin made some highly questionable decisions this game. That combined with his decision to use Otero at an important high leverage situation last night and let's just say that this wasn't the best series for Melvin.
What a horrible series. We had the lead in all 4 games and blew 3 of them.
Awaiting a call-up for Hiro or Grant Green. I love Rosie's hustle, but we need someone that can hit LHP.
Originally posted by DaDDieO:
Awaiting a call-up for Hiro or Grant Green. I love Rosie's hustle, but we need someone that can hit LHP.

Also hoping we call up Sonny Gray towards the end of the year. Can use a couple of fresh arms if were gonna make a run again.