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2013 MLB Regular Season Wrapup Discussion Thread

More replay = good. Manager Challenge System instead of 5th Booth Umpire call-in for specific close plays = terrible
[ Edited by captveg on Aug 16, 2013 at 12:09 AM ]
Originally posted by captveg:
More replay = good. Manager Challenge System instead of 5th Booth Umpire call-in for specific close plays = terrible

I dont get whats so hard about a system where every ump crew has a designated booth guy, who will confirm or overturn any questionable calls. Train special booth umpires, since the on field guys arent going to want to take turns being off the field.

Challenges are a crappy idea. Just make sure every questionable call is addressed.

I also wish the umpires were held to a higher standard with keeping a basic, consistent strike zone. Its not even about what kind of zone the ump has, its consistency. If you call low strikes between the catchers knees, keep it consistent, and dont then call high strikes as well.
Address every questionable call lol the game would take 5 hours

No way they are adding 20 some umps when they can use five guys in NY to do the same thing

By using challenges you still keep strategy in the game.

I think the using the retired umps in NY is a good idea.

What's dumb is the nfl asking that dude on the phone if the umps at the game are making the right call. Just call that guy and get rid of the stupid booth lol
Originally posted by SoCold:
Address every questionable call lol the game would take 5 hours

No way they are adding 20 some umps when they can use five guys in NY to do the same thing

By using challenges you still keep strategy in the game.

I think the using the retired umps in NY is a good idea.

What's dumb is the nfl asking that dude on the phone if the umps at the game are making the right call. Just call that guy and get rid of the stupid booth lol

How many questionable calls are there per game that dont have to do with balls and strikes? By questionable I mean calls that cause the manager to come out and argue. That happens 1 or 2 times a game. It wouldnt take 5 hours to correct a couple close plays on the bases.

They already use the reviews for HR's, so it would essentially just be adding very close plays on the bases, fair or foul down the lines, and trapped balls. Even if they had to review a dozen calls a game it would still be under the amount of time that a normal Yankees/Red Sox game is.

The point is whether they add a booth ump, or doing it long distance to NY, they could just make sure ALL the major mistakes are corrected. The entire point is to get the calls right, not to turn it into a game of challenges, limiting managers to certain amounts per game.

The NFL limits challenges because there so much going on at once, that coaches could throw a challenge flag for every call they didnt like. NFL coaches are screaming at the refs after every play about something they screwed up or didnt see. In baseball things are very uniform, and outside a couple close plays a game, the umps dont get much argument from managers that doesnt have to do with the strike zone.

Just use common sense. Was the ball fair or foul? HR or double? safe or out? trapped or caught? We have the technology now to get it right quickly, and I dont think we should be limiting how much we can get right. Every play that needs review ends up taking a bunch of time anyways with the arguing. Might as well use that time on figuring out the correct call instead of umpire/manager bravado.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Address every questionable call lol the game would take 5 hours

No way they are adding 20 some umps when they can use five guys in NY to do the same thing

By using challenges you still keep strategy in the game.

I think the using the retired umps in NY is a good idea.

What's dumb is the nfl asking that dude on the phone if the umps at the game are making the right call. Just call that guy and get rid of the stupid booth lol

How many questionable calls are there per game that dont have to do with balls and strikes? By questionable I mean calls that cause the manager to come out and argue. That happens 1 or 2 times a game. It wouldnt take 5 hours to correct a couple close plays on the bases.

They already use the reviews for HR's, so it would essentially just be adding very close plays on the bases, fair or foul down the lines, and trapped balls. Even if they had to review a dozen calls a game it would still be under the amount of time that a normal Yankees/Red Sox game is.

The point is whether they add a booth ump, or doing it long distance to NY, they could just make sure ALL the major mistakes are corrected. The entire point is to get the calls right, not to turn it into a game of challenges, limiting managers to certain amounts per game.

The NFL limits challenges because there so much going on at once, that coaches could throw a challenge flag for every call they didnt like. NFL coaches are screaming at the refs after every play about something they screwed up or didnt see. In baseball things are very uniform, and outside a couple close plays a game, the umps dont get much argument from managers that doesnt have to do with the strike zone.

Just use common sense. Was the ball fair or foul? HR or double? safe or out? trapped or caught? We have the technology now to get it right quickly, and I dont think we should be limiting how much we can get right. Every play that needs review ends up taking a bunch of time anyways with the arguing. Might as well use that time on figuring out the correct call instead of umpire/manager bravado.

the 5 hour comment was tongue and cheek they are not going to review every close play if they don't have to that's the point.

there were at least a half dozen close plays at 1st base in the Tigers game last night managers didn't run out of the dugout 6 times to argue but they all could have been reviewable plays

they gave the system structure just like the nfl only difference is they are using a home based ump crew for all reviews

I like this because it takes the human emotion out of the review
say you have an ump that's getting b***hed at a lot for calling a bad game he could be more inclined to make a call one way or another
it's not supposed to happen but you know it does
that's why players get tossed for telling an ump to f**k off

What you want is a college football type system where they would just look at every close play in the booth and what buzz down to the ump and stop the game

Pitcher pitches a strike down the middle or a guy hits the pitch out for a HR but it doesn't count cause the ump got a buzz and the play doesn't count
LOL not gonna happen
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Originally posted by valrod33:
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f**kin A-Rod



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Charlie Manuel getting fired today

Jim Salisbury ‏@JSalisburyCSN 11m Phillies to make manager change, sources say. Press at 230.



keithlaw ‏@keithlaw 5m Charlie Manuel isn't the one who filled the Phillies' roster with old, injured, and expensive players. Or Delmon Young.
Originally posted by valrod33:
Charlie Manuel getting fired today

Jim Salisbury ‏@JSalisburyCSN 11m Phillies to make manager change, sources say. Press at 230.



keithlaw ‏@keithlaw 5m Charlie Manuel isn't the one who filled the Phillies' roster with old, injured, and expensive players. Or Delmon Young.

lol they fired the wrong dude
On this weeks episode of, OW MY BALLS!

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Danny Knobler ‏@DannyKnoblerCBS 14m Ryne Sandberg will be the next Phillies manager, source says.
sad sad day to be a Phillies fan

not Charlies fault Amaro signed terrible contracts and has a aging roster
Originally posted by valrod33:
Charlie Manuel getting fired today

Jim Salisbury ‏@JSalisburyCSN 11m Phillies to make manager change, sources say. Press at 230.



keithlaw ‏@keithlaw 5m Charlie Manuel isn't the one who filled the Phillies' roster with old, injured, and expensive players. Or Delmon Young.

FINALLY A FIRING!!!!
Soriano on fire again

The AL Player Of The Week shouldn't be that hard to figure out.