Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by solidg2000:Originally posted by skeetskeet:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:Skeet, if it wasnt illegal, why didnt they all just say "yeah, I did it!" Quit with the it wasnt illegal bit. I was tested for it in the early 90s in high school. We all knew you couldnt t do it.
As I've said, it has nothing to do with if he was great. He was great before he cheated. He cheated, so he lost my respect....along with the rest of them.
But a billion dollar business couldn't test for it?
Originally posted by solidg2000:It wasn't illegal and they didnt test positive for any steroids because these drugs where designed to pass a drug test...
They weren't illegal because no one knew they excited!
Bonds is a cheating douche.
McGwire is a cheating douche.
Sosa is a cheating douche.
Braun is a cheating douche.
[Insert cheater here] is a cheating douche.
It's because it wasn't illegal at the time. Just like andro. And ephedra. And test 400. Once the decided it was illegal...
And again, If it was that easy why has no one been as dominant and great as bonds? A Rod Braun man ram... No one was even close.
He was special. End of story.
Greatest ever? Maybe. Maybe not. Greatest of 90s and 2000s? Yup
As great as Miguel Cabrera is right now, why isn't he as feared?
This s**t is like politics and religion. No one wants to see it any different than they believe.
Only thing that will be agreeable is that GGG
Bonds wasn't feared until he started taking steroids.
No one feared the guy on the left
lol Bonds wasnt feared before 2000? from 1986-1999: 3 time MVP (top 5 in MVP voting 7 times), 445 HR, 460 SB, .409 OB%, .559 SLG (.968 OPS), 2010 hits, 423 doubles, led baseball in walks 5 times, etc.
I love when people post a picture of Bonds when he was in his 20's next to a picture of him at almost 40 and act like it happened overnight. Because people usually have the same body at age 40 as they do at age 25...
Dude once bonds allegedly started using he gained at least 20 pounds and his batting average went up 30 points (from .290 to .320ish) his stolen bases also dropped (age had something to do with that too)
Was bonds a great player? Yes
Would he make the HOF pre steroids? Yes, Being the only member of the 400-400 club kind of guarantees that
Should he make the HOF now? No, if Pete rose isn't in because if gambling, these cheaters def should not be in!